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Title: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: Fabrizio Radica on 23:03, 13 October 19
Hi All :)
I made the MOD of Mammagamma (The Alan Parsons Project) for Amiga.. and ASAP i will release also for CPC (128k?)...

See You Soon <3
Ciaooo!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT562GqqsNk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT562GqqsNk)
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: Token on 23:20, 13 October 19
Very nice MOD, I like it a lot.
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: Fabrizio Radica on 23:29, 13 October 19
Very nice MOD, I like it a lot.
you can download it here :)
https://www.retroacademy.it/_r3tr0_wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Amiga-Mammagamma.zip
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: genesis8 on 00:20, 14 October 19
Nice one, waiting for the CPC version.
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: Targhan on 01:02, 14 October 19
I don't know how you want to convert it to CPC, but Arkos Tracker 2 (shameless plug, I'm the developer, see my signature) allows you to import MOD and replay them on CPC with its own MOD player. You can also import the MOD and use "normal" PSG instrument instead (but you'll have to replace the sounds by yourself).
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: LambdaMikel on 04:07, 14 October 19
I made the MOD of Mammagamma (The Alan Parsons Project)
EXCELLENT taste of music - I am an all time Alan Parsons (Project) + Eric Woolfson (RIP) fan.Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: mr_lou on 06:24, 14 October 19
Very nice rendition of Mammagamma! Good use of channels!

This track has been on my playlist regularly since it came out. I've mostly heard the version on Synthesizer Greatest though.  :)

Do you also compose your own Amiga mods? Any links?

EDIT: Using the "Optimize" button in Milkytracker reveals 13 unused instruments. By removing those you can trim the mod down to 130 kb.
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: Fabrizio Radica on 11:48, 14 October 19
oh nice! is not yet optimized :)

Here my soundclound with "recent" songs (made with Renoise)
https://soundcloud.com/fabrizioradica (https://soundcloud.com/fabrizioradica)



Very nice rendition of Mammagamma! Good use of channels!

This track has been on my playlist regularly since it came out. I've mostly heard the version on Synthesizer Greatest though.  :)

Do you also compose your own Amiga mods? Any links?

EDIT: Using the "Optimize" button in Milkytracker reveals 13 unused instruments. By removing those you can trim the mod down to 130 kb.
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: Fabrizio Radica on 15:00, 14 October 19
Hi :)

New version 1.1
- major bugfix
- size optimization (Tnx to mr_lou)

https://www.retroacademy.it/2019/10/11/16-bit/mammagamma-amiga-version/7023/
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: mr_lou on 20:49, 14 October 19
oh nice! is not yet optimized :)

Here my soundclound with "recent" songs (made with Renoise)
https://soundcloud.com/fabrizioradica (https://soundcloud.com/fabrizioradica)

Cool tracks on Soundcloud!
So you work mostly wtih Renoise?
How come you made the Mammagamma track as a 4 channel MOD then?

I also bought Renoise, and made a few tracks with it too, but I find myself returning to Milkytracker most of the time to create MODs or XM files instead.
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: VincentGR on 02:17, 15 October 19
Awesome tune!
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: Fabrizio Radica on 01:58, 18 October 19
and now... ON AMSTRAD!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq6vDAQYoyw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq6vDAQYoyw)
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: mr_lou on 08:58, 18 October 19
Nice.

But... is that with or without Digiblaster?

I assume Digiblaster. But I was sure Digiblaster would give a better sound than that.

@Targhan (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=110) I'm also about to try to do some tracks for both Amiga and the CPC (or some day in the future anyway). Arkos Tracker 2 only supports one speed setting though. Can you tell us what each speed in Arkos Tracker 2 corresponds to in a MOD?
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: Fabrizio Radica on 10:32, 18 October 19
both.
This video is without but the DSK have both :)

Nice.

But... is that with or without Digiblaster?

I assume Digiblaster. But I was sure Digiblaster would give a better sound than that.

@Targhan (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=110) I'm also about to try to do some tracks for both Amiga and the CPC (or some day in the future anyway). Arkos Tracker 2 only supports one speed setting though. Can you tell us what each speed in Arkos Tracker 2 corresponds to in a MOD?
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: Targhan on 10:35, 18 October 19
@mr_lou (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=96) MOD and old school trackers use the exact same speed management, which is based on the screen flyback. "New MOD" use a more precise timing, which is can not be used on old-school platform, the same way as chiptunes. Speed 6 in a MOD matches the "6" in AT2, or Soundtrakker, or STarKos, or Protracker (by Prodatron).
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: mr_lou on 13:55, 18 October 19
@mr_lou (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=96) MOD and old school trackers use the exact same speed management, which is based on the screen flyback. "New MOD" use a more precise timing, which is can not be used on old-school platform, the same way as chiptunes. Speed 6 in a MOD matches the "6" in AT2, or Soundtrakker, or STarKos, or Protracker (by Prodatron).

Ok, so BPM just has to be the default 125 in the MOD?
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: Targhan on 14:08, 18 October 19
I don't remember exactly (you can also calculate it... But I'm tired :)), something like that indeed.
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: GUNHED on 16:03, 20 October 19

Very good!  :)  Both!  :)

Also,... Would be nice to see the Digiblaster or even better the LambdaSpeak III Version of it.  8)
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: mr_lou on 17:11, 20 October 19
Very good!  :)  Both!  :)

Also,... Would be nice to see the Digiblaster or even better the LambdaSpeak III Version of it.  8)

Yea, I kinda think you should have put the Digiblaster version on YouTube instead of the non-digiblaster version....
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: GUNHED on 17:30, 20 October 19
Yea, I kinda think you should have put the Digiblaster version on YouTube instead of the non-digiblaster version....


They are all quit of interest. For 4 bit CPC PSG sound, that MOD got really well.  :)
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: GUNHED on 19:03, 21 October 19
you can download it here :)
https://www.retroacademy.it/_r3tr0_wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Amiga-Mammagamma.zip (https://www.retroacademy.it/_r3tr0_wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Amiga-Mammagamma.zip)


Can I play this on a PC too?

Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: mr_lou on 19:05, 21 October 19
Can I play this on a PC too?

For Windows, Mac and Linux there is Protracker 2.3d clone.
https://16-bits.org/pt2.php

For Windows there is also XMPlay.
https://www.un4seen.com/
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: GUNHED on 19:07, 21 October 19
Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: LambdaMikel on 20:08, 21 October 19
Very good!  :)  Both!  :)

Also,... Would be nice to see the Digiblaster or even better the LambdaSpeak III Version of it.  8)


Digiblaster is printer port, right?


Does any of the trackers support the Amdrum PCM playing mode? PCM to out &ffxx expansion port? From the CPU load, that would not be different.


For low / zero CPU load and high quality PCM, indeed LS3 EEPROM PCM sample playing mode would be one way to go.

 
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: GUNHED on 20:20, 21 October 19
Digiblaster is 8 bit printer port (signed). In every case it's just sending a data stream - with correct speed.
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: robcfg on 20:24, 21 October 19
Is it 8-bit or 7-bit?
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: LambdaMikel on 20:28, 21 October 19
Amdrum PCM is 8 bit.
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: robcfg on 20:33, 21 October 19
I meant the Digiblaster. Wasn't the printer port 7-bit?


Or was it that the 8th bit was inverted compared to the rest and thus you need to modify your samples accordingly?


Edit:Answering to myself, yes, there's one bit that is negated by the hardware so it has to be adjusted on the sample side.


By the way, the link to the v2 Digiblasters is broken, so I replaced it with a link to that page at the Internet Archive. Sadly the schematics are not archived. If someone has them, please upload them to the Digiblaster page, thanks!
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: LambdaMikel on 21:21, 21 October 19
By the way, the link to the v2 Digiblasters is broken, so I replaced it with a link to that page at the Internet Archive. Sadly the schematics are not archived. If someone has them, please upload them to the Digiblaster page, thanks!

That shouldn't be hard to replicate, even from memory... wasn't it just a DA converter based on a resistor ladder wired to D0 to D7 (or D6?)... ? 


Btw, is somebody making them? Would like to add one to my collection of CPC stuff. But then, if it is really just a resistor ladder, then it is not that difficult to DIY either. But I am lazy too  :D
Title: Re: Mammagamma Amiga MOD.... and CPC :)
Post by: MacDeath on 16:01, 15 November 19
Ok, CPC can also access some peripherals such as the plAY-City (with extre dual AY chips) or the Amstrad PUS can run massive DMA channel effects as well and cartridge versions.

Any plan to input those ?