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Title: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Prodatron on 00:55, 29 June 15
SymbOS 3.0 beta with ethernet network support is available now. You can download the full package here:

http://www.symbos.org/download/preview-symbos3network-beta.zip (http://www.symbos.org/download/preview-symbos3network-beta.zip)

(http://www.symbos.org/gfx/preview/s3bn-cpc-netd.png)

It seems that network support is introducing a complete new world for a multitasking environment on a 8bit Z80 machines. The amount of possibilities is still crazy and so we have quite a lot of new apps, which have been added during the last weeks.

(http://www.symbos.org/gfx/preview/s3bn-cpc-battship.png)

(http://www.symbos.org/gfx/preview/s3bn-cpc-symtel.png)
(http://www.symbos.org/gfx/preview/s3bn-cpc-wget.png)

The package includes the following:

SYMBOS 3.0 BETA NETWORK RELEASE

What is included

BASE SOFTWARE
- SymbOS 3.0 beta
- Control Panel
- SymShell 2.0 beta

NETWORK DAEMON
- DenYoNet driver
- Localhost driver

GUI APPLICATIONS DEVELOPED WITH UNIFY
- Battleship
- Symple messenger

SYMSHELL BASED APPLICATIONS
- SymTel
- WGet
- NsLookUp
- NetStat
- Nettest

For more information please read the included #readme.txt.

(http://www.symbos.org/gfx/preview/s3bn-cpc-symmsgr.png)
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Dizrythmia on 08:00, 29 June 15
Forget Splatoon! Now I want to upgrade my CPC & play Battleships online. It genuinely looks like it would be great fun with the messaging window open for real time discussion. You can't chat in Splatoon anyway! :)
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: FloppySoftware on 09:12, 29 June 15
These are good news! Congratulations!  :)
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: ronaldo on 12:05, 29 June 15
@Prodatron (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=13): This is release 3.0. beta. You are almost reaching version 3.1., which should be the first to hit the masses on the market (as it did for Windows :D). And you almost have 3.11 for work groups :D.

Incredible, man. Excelent job :)
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: TFM on 20:29, 29 June 15
Which hardware do you use for network access? Where can it be bought?
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Apollo on 20:41, 29 June 15
Looking forward to try it when I have some time.... Congrats to this milestone!
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Poliander on 21:01, 29 June 15
Just in time, I made it yesterday to set up SymbOS 2.1 properly on my 664/X-MEM/X-MASS hardware - works very good so far. *thumbs up*
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: CraigsBar on 21:41, 29 June 15
I plan on upgrading my main symbos setup to v3 tonight. Bring on the Ethernet card, either standalone or minibooster add-on.
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Joseman on 00:50, 30 June 15
This 2 months i'll be very busy and far of my cpc, and waiting for Justcpc too.

When i have time and justcpc, i'll try symbos 3.0 and unify of course!
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: TFM on 21:10, 30 June 15
I plan on upgrading my main symbos setup to v3 tonight. Bring on the Ethernet card, either standalone or minibooster add-on.


Did you get it working? Which network hardware did you use?
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: CraigsBar on 21:21, 30 June 15

Did you get it working? Which network hardware did you use?
After downloading I noticed that the main reason for me to upgrade will be the official release of the play city compatible SymAMP, and that is not included :( not much point in installing this one until a CPC Ethernet card is available :'(
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Trebmint on 22:42, 30 June 15
After downloading I noticed that the main reason for me to upgrade will be the official release of the play city compatible SymAMP, and that is not included :( not much point in installing this one until a CPC Ethernet card is available :'(
I guess Prodatron could have skipped the CPC version since 99% of normal users on here know there is no hardware as yet. But consider this as motivation for hardware and emulator creators.
What Prodatron has achieved is pretty amazing if you ask me, even if it only works currently on the MSX machines. The fact I implemented the code into unify, and then wrote the messenger app in 30 lines of code in about 5 minutes, and we already have a cool Battleships game bodes well for the future surely? And when the CPC hardware finally catches up these apps will need no alteration to work - they just will
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Prodatron on 22:56, 30 June 15
After downloading I noticed that the main reason for me to upgrade will be the official release of the play city compatible SymAMP, and that is not included :( not much point in installing this one until a CPC Ethernet card is available :'(

Thanks for the hint, indeed SymAmp wasn't included. I added the preview with PlayCity support to the package, just download it again under the same link. This is still a preview, as the normal player for the internal PSG isn't included, so it's better to keep both versions.

since 99% of normal users on here know there is no hardware as yet.

That's true  ;D

But consider this as motivation for hardware and emulator creators.

This is exactly the intention of this release. And with the localhost network daemon you are already able to try out all included network applications on your real or emulated CPC.

From the included #readme.txt :
Quote
NETD-LOC.EXE

This version of the network daemon contains the localhost driver. It is platform independant and can be used on every supported SymbOS Z80 platform. It enables a "local" network on your own machine. Now you can start server and client apps which are then able to communicate with each other within the SymbOS environment. It is not necessary to do any configuration for the localhost driver, all IP addresses and domain lookups are always 127.0.0.1 (http://127.0.0.1) based. The localhost version of the network daemon is very useful for testing network applications with an emulator and to have all available network applications already running on computers without ethernet hardware.
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: TFM on 00:06, 01 July 15
After downloading I noticed that the main reason for me to upgrade will be the official release of the play city compatible SymAMP, and that is not included :( not much point in installing this one until a CPC Ethernet card is available :'(


Sorry, to hear. Prodatron posted this:
SymbOS network support development (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/programming/symbos-network-support-development/msg102089/#msg102089)


So I though there is already hardware for the CPC. Guess 99% assumed like me.
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Prodatron on 03:55, 01 July 15
Feels very stupid to repeat it again and again, but yes, since march/april there is a new minibooster based hardware which enables ethernet access for the CPC.
SymbOS network support development (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/programming/symbos-network-support-development/msg96783/#msg96783) Already forgot about these photos?
Btw I missed the part with "you can now buy it somewhere". Any sources? Pretty sure, that 100% of the CPC community knows, that it isn't sold right now :D
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: CraigsBar on 11:00, 01 July 15
Feels very stupid to repeat it again and again, but yes, since march/april there is a new minibooster based hardware which enables ethernet access for the CPC.
SymbOS network support development (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/programming/symbos-network-support-development/msg96783/#msg96783) Already forgot about these photos?
Btw I missed the part with "you can now buy it somewhere". Any sources? Pretty sure, that 100% of the CPC community knows, that it isn't sold right now :D
If you can tell me where to get one I'll order one today. Just checked @TotO's store, no not there, not even on the minibooster page. So please tell me where I can get one. ;)
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Trebmint on 11:30, 01 July 15
If you can tell me where to get one I'll order one today. Just checked @TotO (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=290)'s store, no not there, not even on the minibooster page. So please tell me where I can get one. ;)
There is no available hardware as yet. If there was I think it would be all over the wiki. TFM also knows this since the thread he points too the very next message is from Kaos saying the hardware doesnt work... And TFM liked that???


I think it was made quite clear that this 3.0 beta contains a driver for the MSX network cards, and otherwise Localhost, plus a lot of accompanying software. It will only ever be of true value to somebody that has a CPC network card or when an emulator supports a CPC network card. You can try things in a limited was using localhost, or even get yourself an MSX2.


It is a chicken and egg situation though... it takes something threaded like symbos to make networking worthwhile, and without that developing the hardware is of limited use. For instance the MSX hardware has no software other than that comes with the hardware. Obviously now it has symbos apps


"Build it an they will come" is the policy, and I think a number of people are trying at the moment. I have no idea about ToTo, but I hope so as he's one of the CPC's most talented hardware guys. It would appear that there is a market for the hardware


In the meantime while we're all waiting we will continue to develop software, and Unify will be out later this week so you can develop yourself if you wish
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Edoz(MSX) on 11:39, 01 July 15
If you can tell me where to get one I'll order one today. Just checked @TotO (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=290)'s store, no not there, not even on the minibooster page. So please tell me where I can get one. ;)

I hope that there is a network adapter soon for the CPC! as then we can connect different z80 systems using ethernet and SymbOS togetther!! That would be so cool! The cool part is that the localhost driver is already working in SymbOS so all the network stuff is already in there!

I'm the lucky one that have a network adapter for my MSX so i played with it and i can only say that it is so cool that you can do this with your old machine! I'm so glad that Trebmint and Prodatron did all this work! Al this seems so normal but it must take a lot of work and time to make this! Thanks for all this work! I'm very happy that this OS was ported for different z80 system and that there is one OS that works for all! Crazy not!?

(http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_143573919810312&key=1db07c1ca961fda47c3134a69129438d&libId=ibki0pox01000i8e000DA532c6esm&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msx.org%2Fforum%2Fdevelopment%2Fmsx-development%2Fsymbos-msx-multitasking-operating-system-help-needed%3Fpage%3D364&v=1&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.symbos.org%2Fgfx%2Fpreview%2Fmsx01.jpg&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msx.org%2Fforum%2Fdevelopment%2Fmsx-development%2Fsymbos-msx-multitasking-operating-system-help-needed%3Fpage%3D366&title=SymbOS%20MSX%20multitasking%20operating%20system%20-%20help%20needed!%20%7C%20MSX%20Resource%20Center%20(Page%20365%2F366)&txt=%3Cimg%20src%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.symbos.org%2Fgfx%2Fpreview%2Fmsx01.jpg%22%20alt%3D%22%22%20class%3D%22bb-image%22%3E)
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: CraigsBar on 11:40, 01 July 15
There is no available hardware as yet. If there was I think it would be all over the wiki. TFM also knows this since the thread he points too the very next message is from Kaos saying the hardware doesnt work... And TFM liked that???


I think it was made quite clear that this 3.0 beta contains a driver for the MSX network cards, and otherwise Localhost, plus a lot of accompanying software. It will only ever be of true value to somebody that has a CPC network card or when an emulator supports a CPC network card. You can try things in a limited was using localhost, or even get yourself an MSX2.


It is a chicken and egg situation though... it takes something threaded like symbos to make networking worthwhile, and without that developing the hardware is of limited use. For instance the MSX hardware has no software other than that comes with the hardware. Obviously now it has symbos apps


"Build it an they will come" is the policy, and I think a number of people are trying at the moment. I have no idea about ToTo, but I hope so as he's one of the CPC's most talented hardware guys. It would appear that there is a market for the hardware


In the meantime while we're all waiting we will continue to develop software, and Unify will be out later this week so you can develop yourself if you wish
I know it's not available, I'd have one if it were, unfortunately @Prodatron 's post stated it is available since April. ;)
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Prodatron on 12:31, 01 July 15
There is a working hardware since april, but no-one ever said, that you can already buy it, or did I? ;)
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: CraigsBar on 14:35, 01 July 15
There is a working hardware since april, but no-one ever said, that you can already buy it, or did I? ;)
If you use that argument, then there has been working hardware since the Symbiface 3. No one could actually get any of it, but it was working. Grrrrr ;)
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Prodatron on 15:10, 01 July 15
To clarify it again:
- there is currently no-one who is selling ethernet hardware for the CPC
- at the beginning of april Octoacte was able to do a simple Telnet session with his ESP8266 module, which uses the Minibooster for the data transfer; therefore there is a new and (for TCP) already working project, though the hardware-internal API wasn't completed/optimized; the hardware is quite easy to build, but at the end someone has to produce it
- KaosOverride is experimenting with a W5100 based hardware as well; this is the same which is used in the existing (DenYoNet) and in the upcoming (GR8NET) ethernet card for the MSX (yes, they even have two now)
- because of this (and not because of the SF3 from 2007) I am quite positive that there will be a working and available solution soon (this year?)
- Trebmint, EdoZ and me are only doing the software; we have neither the knowledge nor any influence for the hardware development at all - I think this is also quite clear, isn't it?
- the only thing we can do is to provide a platform independant system and an IDE for network support and a bunch of already finished network applications
- the hardware has to be created by someone else, and we support any project by our drivers and software - not less and not more

This all has already posted before, but maybe it's good to make a summary again.
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Edoz(MSX) on 20:57, 01 July 15
SymbOS 3.0 BETA running Network/Ethernet TCP/IP - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MHMZlFhZE4)
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: KaosOverride on 01:35, 02 July 15
i'm waiting some AVR Atmega168 modules to make an I/O to SPI adapter for Wiznet modules. It's a bit dirty, because SPI will make some lag, but I/O (indirect) mode is a little buggy when managed from a Z80 and memory (direct) mode is a little conflict with memory expansions.

Well , SPI mode will enable the use of other SPI-only Wiznet modules, cheaper than the memory-IO-SPI module i'm using.

I said that SPI will give lag because SPI at 16mhz AVR is not fast enought to simulate a nearly RAM read/write throught I/O ports. 14 address bits + 8 data bits at 8Mhz serial data transfer does not fit into the 4 cycle read/write at Z80 4Mhz.... The Z80 must be slowed using the /WAIT signal, if I don't manage to work some kind of cache at the AVR...
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: KaosOverride on 00:21, 27 July 15
Just thinking... If I use the original PCW serial+centronic printer adapter with an 8266 serial to wifi, I can have TCP/IP conectivity at the PCW????

I'm still waiting for some hardware, 8266 module included, and I have a PCW with the serial adapter (And an rs232PC to TTL adapter ) This looks fun xD
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Prodatron on 09:13, 27 July 15
Just thinking... If I use the original PCW serial+centronic printer adapter with an 8266 serial to wifi, I can have TCP/IP conectivity at the PCW? ???

I'm still waiting for some hardware, 8266 module included, and I have a PCW with the serial adapter (And an rs232PC to TTL adapter ) This looks fun xD
Yes, all you need is a serial connection to the ESP8266.
The network driver is splitted into two layers:
- the ethernet device specific part (in this case the handling of the ESP8266)
- the Z80 platform specific part (how the ethernet device is accessable for the Z80; in this case the serial interface of the PCW or the MiniBooster of the CPC)
So only the PCW-specific serial interface access has to be modified to have an own PCW driver.
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: mr_lou on 10:11, 27 July 15
If you want new hardware, you should (imho) consider donating to the hardware creators.
Doesn't have to be much.

I know perfectly well that many of them will say they aren't doing it for money. And of course they aren't. But I'm sure it'll boost the motivation anyway.

I'd love to be online from my CPC+ via my phone. Be online on IRC. Check e-mail maybe? :-)
I gotta have this!  :)
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: KaosOverride on 12:40, 27 July 15
Ohh, is more motivational for me to try to do my own hardware, so fun!!

And meanwhile I learn. Then it can be shared, make better by the comunity and finaly the hardware makers can make batchs
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: kawickboy on 14:47, 29 July 15
with this release a cpc will be able to chat with a msx ?
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Joseman on 15:12, 29 July 15
with this release a cpc will be able to chat with a msx ?

Of course, the software is platform independent... CPC, MSX, PCW, ENTERPRISE, if they have LAN they will chat each other!...
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: KaosOverride on 21:03, 30 July 15
Juhuuuuu!!!!!  Arrived today:

(http://i61.tinypic.com/9km3pk.jpg)

So if I finish the CapriceRPI Release, I can start playing with this at the MiniBooster :D
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: TFM on 21:06, 30 July 15
Nice! Keep us updated!  :)
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Prodatron on 21:22, 30 July 15
@Mikel, that's very cool! Maybe now Octoate and you could join forces?! I will meet him tomorrow again on the Evoke demoparty in Cologne, let's see what we can achieve this time...
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: KaosOverride on 23:58, 30 July 15
My idea is to code a BSD sockets compatible library for SDCC. Like the Spectranet. Then it should be easy to port simple C text utils under SDCC for CPC.

But first I want to finish the CapriceRPI emu and don't be making too much things at the same time.

On the other hand, I received the Atmega chips but now I can't find them.... I have lose them at home!!! I hope that I didn't throw away by mistake...... :(

Well, that was just for making a dedicated SPI controller, the minibooster can be used with the SPI port but will be more complex to access, I think...
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: TFM on 00:01, 31 July 15
You could update the Booster ROM, so the Booster does some work for you and the CPC has some relief.  ;)  The Boosters CPU is a bit like a Z80 without 2nd register set anyway.  :)
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: KaosOverride on 00:15, 31 July 15
Yes, I know. But I don't want to break the normal SPI function :(

There are some extra SPI select pins, but I have to check if they can be used without atmel CPU penalization (software SPI) or can be used without tricks or problems...

EDIT: Have read about multiple SPI and the SS pin is for slave use... Any digital pin can be used without problems for SPI select...Good!!
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: MacDeath on 11:21, 31 July 15
Will be great to have those eastern europeans with Enterprises computers join Amstradists and MSXists on the internet... via real machines.
Can't wait for a small online bomberman type of game. Also Jet Set Willy online ?

May also be fun to have a SymbOS applications contest from the Alicante universitade students who already do it on plain CPC464... should also teach them a lot. ;D
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: ronaldo on 11:06, 31 August 15
@Prodatron (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=13): Does Symbos run on a 464 with X-MEM expansion? I managed to load all 4 ROMs from cassette tape and flash them to X-MEM. Then, I run Symbos with |SYM and main screen appears. I can move the pointer with the keys and click on Start. However, when I try to click on any menu option or icon, nothing happens. Am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Prodatron on 11:56, 31 August 15
@Prodatron (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=13): Does Symbos run on a 464 with X-MEM expansion? I managed to load all 4 ROMs from cassette tape and flash them to X-MEM. Then, I run Symbos with |SYM and main screen appears. I can move the pointer with the keys and click on Start. However, when I try to click on any menu option or icon, nothing happens. Am I doing something wrong?
It requires at least one DDI compatible disc drive. Somehow it sounds you are running the 464 without?
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: ronaldo on 12:06, 31 August 15
Yes, It's a 464 with an X-MEM expansion only. It has no DDI. Is it necesary to read the config file or something similar? Stupid question: Could it be read from tape?
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Prodatron on 13:32, 31 August 15
It really sounds crazy to run it from tape, you are probably the first one who tried it!  :D
But there is no tape support in SymbOS, it is focused on sector-based data storages and requires a variant of the CP/M or FAT filesystem. So you need a disc drive or IDE device to be able to load something after booting.
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: ronaldo on 14:26, 31 August 15
 :D Yes, it's amazingly crazy. It took me a while to load ROMs from tape to flash them into the X-MEM, but it was really funny  ;D

I hoped for a possibilty to run SymbOS on a plain 464 with X-MEM. I thought of creating a tape installer for automatically loading and flashing ROMs for people without disc drive. My hope's gone down the drain  :(

Is there any possibility to do something similar without a great cost? I mean, implementing something specific for tape is not worthy: but an alternative might be possible.
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Singaja on 14:59, 31 August 15
Could the basic SymbOS apps like command line or file manager be also bundled as rom(s)? This is the basic functionality for which the disk/dsk juggling seems a little bit tiring.
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Edoz(MSX) on 16:38, 31 August 15
Maybe prodatron must create a RAMDISK haha . what would be cool!
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Prodatron on 20:30, 31 August 15
Yes, I was thinking about a "ROM" disc several times. So you could use some of the 16K roms in these modern rewriteable ROM expansions as a read/write mass storage device.
On the other hand a 3,5" disc can store 720KB using the FAT12 format, so you can put most of the stuff there. And because of the multitasking/multiprogramming environment, you just load it once and then keep it in memory. Hm...
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: skywalky on 16:13, 09 November 15
Already there is a serial and WIFI adapter for the CPC. Here is Puerto serie + Wifi en el Amstrad CPC - Va de Retro (SatanĂ¡s) -- VERSION 2 (http://www.va-de-retro.com/foros/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=3840) (In Spanish)
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Singaja on 19:49, 09 November 15
 :o
Is the usb only for power supply?
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: skywalky on 21:00, 09 November 15
:o
Is the usb only for power supply?
Yes, I think but is only a prototype to test the capabilities.
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Joseman on 23:02, 30 March 16
Hi @Prodatron (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=13)

I'm trying to install symbos 3.0 on CPC (better late than never), but the roms included on the dsk seems to be corrupted,  the rom manager displays the roms as "corrupted", also, what's the order of the roms on the dsk and where is better to put them?

thanks!

P.S. any news about symbos or unify?

Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: TFM on 00:21, 31 March 16
I had a similar problem, but used ROManager for FutureOS 2.14 eventually and got it all working.  :)
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: Sykobee (Briggsy) on 01:42, 31 March 16
Holy crap, I missed this originally! Wow. Great work.
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: remax on 20:54, 15 April 16
Hi @Prodatron (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=13)

I'm trying to install symbos 3.0 on CPC (better late than never), but the roms included on the dsk seems to be corrupted,  the rom manager displays the roms as "corrupted", also, what's the order of the roms on the dsk and where is better to put them?

thanks!

P.S. any news about symbos or unify?

Are you sure there are roms on the disk ? I thought it was just some binary files for SymbOS but not roms
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: CraigsBar on 01:01, 01 September 16
sorry to dig up a dead thread!

just to let you know this release renders the rom edition redundant.

I have copied the contents of the cpc beta release to a folder on the xmass, and what do you know... it boots :)

all i need to do now is copy in the remaining tools etc and i'll be done.

@Prodatron (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=13) , is the next beta / release now pending the m4 board drivers etc??
Title: Re: SymbOS 3.0 beta network edition released with new applications
Post by: CraigsBar on 01:31, 01 September 16
Just to add. In timing I think booting this from the xmass is actually slightly quicker than the ROM version!