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Title: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Gryzor on 13:19, 28 January 22
So I thought it was about time I archived my old CDs/DVDs - a ton of interesting stuff on them, including my first PC backup from 02/1996 :D


To be expected, several contain files that just won't get copied (cyclic redundancy check error). Strangely the discs look to be in perfect condition - no scratches, no disc rot, but I still can't copy several files.


Can anyone suggest a (Windows) program that will brute-force read and copy whatever it can? I know there used to be a few solutions but I can't find anything that looks remotely up-to-date...
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 13:22, 28 January 22
Isobuster busted a load of a unreadable DVD's I was trying to rip to mkv a couple of years back.
It's not free, but there is a trial period (7 or 14 days) I think, so I'd recommend that.
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Gryzor on 13:25, 28 January 22
Ah I think I do have a license for it from who knows how long ago! Does it copy files though or does it only create images?
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 13:27, 28 January 22
Quote from: Gryzor on 13:25, 28 January 22
Ah I think I do have a license for it from who knows how long ago! Does it copy files though or does it only create images?


It certainly does. It extracts from disks as well as ISO's as well as creating images. :)
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Gryzor on 13:28, 28 January 22
I totally forgot that! perhaps why it didn't come to mind... cool, will give it a try, thanks!!
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Gryzor on 13:35, 28 January 22
Pah, extraction is for the licensed version only...
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: eto on 13:50, 28 January 22
If you want to copy the files and just skip errors, Robocopy might be worth a try. It's part of Windows. I am doing all my file backups with this tool.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robocopy
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Gryzor on 13:59, 28 January 22
Ha, the successory to xcopy! I didn't have a clue :D Cheers, going to try it :)
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Bryce on 15:03, 28 January 22
You could try CloneCD / CloneDVD? (The one with the sheep) Copied anything I ever threw at it.


Bryce.
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Gryzor on 15:08, 28 January 22
Ah thanks, will put that on the list. Right now attempting a DVD with retro magazines with "Recovery Toolbox for CD".
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: kailokyra on 16:15, 28 January 22
You can try several models of drives as well, not all lasers and tracking mecanisms are created equal  ;D .
Some of my discs are already unreadable, it's a good thing that you're backuping them now.


You can try with Aaru https://github.com/aaru-dps/Aaru, but otherwise maybe create an iso with Isobuster as Shaun suggested (the extraction might need a license, but I don't think the image creation does ?)
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Devlin on 16:18, 28 January 22
The only other thought I can think of is putting WSL on your box and then using dd to read the data - the image would still likely have crc errors, but you'd have a *copy* of it to work with than your original discs.
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: SkulleateR on 16:24, 28 January 22
Try the Unstoppable Copier  :)


https://www.roadkil.net/program.php?ProgramID=29
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Gryzor on 14:14, 31 January 22
Thanks for the suggestions, guys! I'm not copying the discs that show no issues, will get back to the problematic ones once I'm done with them :)
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: jimmyd on 14:47, 31 January 22
https://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ may be of help
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Gryzor on 14:58, 31 January 22
Quote from: jimmyd on 14:47, 31 January 22
https://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ may be of help

Time to test that WSL under W11! :D
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Bryce on 15:28, 31 January 22
Quote from: Gryzor on 14:58, 31 January 22
Time to test that WSL under W11! :D

Please don't say you were silly enough to press the "Upgrade to Win11" button!  :picard:

Bryce.
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Gryzor on 16:23, 31 January 22
Was going to format, thought I'd check it out first!
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Bryce on 16:42, 31 January 22
Read the feedback on the interwebs, it'll save you the bother.

Bryce.
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Gryzor on 16:46, 31 January 22
I have! I also have a use for Android apps though... and wsl GUI apps.

So far so good to be honest. If you ignore the slowdowns and the bt stutter with a specific mouse. And Edge insisting doing its own stuff.
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 17:14, 31 January 22
Quote from: Bryce on 15:28, 31 January 22
Please don't say you were silly enough to press the "Upgrade to Win11" button!  :picard:

Bryce.
Oh God! Our workplace are hmming and hawing about jumping to it.
I am dreading that day.
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Bryce on 17:17, 31 January 22
I only had to read the list of programs that I use that would be no longer compatible to know that I won't be touching it.

Bryce.
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Gryzor on 17:24, 31 January 22
Quote from: Shaun M. Neary on 17:14, 31 January 22
Oh God! Our workplace are hmming and hawing about jumping to it.
I am dreading that day.


AT WORK? Heck no😬😬😬 That'll be a disaster...


Quote from: Bryce on 17:17, 31 January 22
I only had to read the list of programs that I use that would be no longer compatible to know that I won't be touching it.

Bryce.


I don't have anything really heavy or complicated apart from Adobe CS, so I'm good, what wouldn't work for you?
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: jimmyd on 17:27, 31 January 22
Maybe take the Win11 discussion somewhere more appropriate?
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 17:27, 31 January 22
Quote from: Gryzor on 17:24, 31 January 22
AT WORK? Heck no😬😬😬 That'll be a disaster...


Yep... hence why I'm shitting myself at the prospect of it!
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Gryzor on 17:30, 31 January 22
Quote from: jimmyd on 17:27, 31 January 22
Maybe take the Win11 discussion somewhere more appropriate?

On a similar note, all the tools suggested here work fine under W11.
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Bryce on 18:23, 31 January 22
Quote from: jimmyd on 17:27, 31 January 22
Maybe take the Win11 discussion somewhere more appropriate?
Gryzor opened the thread and is part of the Win11 discussion. I think it's up to him as to what's appropriate?

McBryce.
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Sid_ on 14:38, 03 February 22
if you're under unix the command line dd do the job, and dump the DVD as iso file.
May be the http://www.chrysocome.net/dd do the same.

Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Gryzor on 14:40, 03 February 22
Ah didn't occur to me there might be a Windows version of dd, I wonder if under the hood it's similar or it's just the high-level functionality. In other words, if it's as good.
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Devlin on 15:50, 03 February 22
If you're running any kind of dd/ddrescue make sure you don't mind that machine being on for a good long while - sometimes the process can be very slow when reading potentially bad data
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 17:07, 03 February 22
Quote from: Devlin on 15:50, 03 February 22
If you're running any kind of dd/ddrescue make sure you don't mind that machine being on for a good long while - sometimes the process can be very slow when reading potentially bad data
This. I often do mine overnight.
Title: Re: CD/DVD brute force copier?
Post by: Gryzor on 10:49, 04 February 22
Very true, and also depends on the number of retries...
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