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Title: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: cwpab on 18:29, 20 June 25
Installing an air-conditioner next week ;D
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: Rabs on 18:58, 20 June 25
:o hot in UK but not that hot.
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: trocoloco on 20:10, 20 June 25
the usual this time around, keep your tinto de verano close by  :laugh:
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: norecess464 on 21:21, 20 June 25
Oh, I have a feeling you're going to hate me -- it's 13 degrees here right now, and I'm not even joking.   Weather forecast (https://meteo.gc.ca/fr/location/index.html?coords=50.218,-66.373)
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: cwpab on 08:37, 21 June 25
Damn, I need to move to Canada ASAP!

You live in a nice little Innsmouth-like place! I like to be by the sea, it's relaxing. However, let's tell the whole story about the weather there... In February, the temperature is always negative, with multiple days of -14ºC max and -21ºC min!  ;D

The places where we live are really different. Not only in the weather, because I live in one of Spain's top 5 cities and there are big cathedrals, tourists, Roman ruins, super old buildings... But also much more difficulty to get to the nature, which you seem to have super close via the sea or a super wild Canadian forest!

Maybe I should invite you over here in the winters in exchange for you inviting me over there in the unbearable Arabia-like summers we're getting lately.

Or maybe we could just move to somewhere without extreme temperatures... Like France?

BTW, only 33% of Spanish households had an air-conditioner in 2022, but the number has reached 50%... If anyone is looking for a winning investment, check out air-conditioner companies in Spain.

PS: I don't leave my house very much, but the extreme weather makes it hard to even be outside for some minutes... But with "regular" cold weather, at least it's warmer during the day! The way heat pauses your body during the day in these conditons without an air-conditioner makes it hard to think or even eat... you're less hungry!

During the Ramadan, Muslims can only eat after 20h... I feel like I could do some Ramadan these days!
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: Prodatron on 10:27, 21 June 25
Quote from: cwpab on 08:37, 21 June 25BTW, only 33% of Spanish households had an air-conditioner in 2022, but the number has reached 50%... If anyone is looking for a winning investment, check out air-conditioner companies in Spain.
Hope you can use photovoltaik (on an own roof, or at least at the balcony) for powering it, using the hot sun for getting cold air for free is always a fascinating thing! :)
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: norecess464 on 13:39, 21 June 25
Quote from: cwpab on 08:37, 21 June 25The places where we live are really different. Not only in the weather, because I live in one of Spain's top 5 cities and there are big cathedrals, tourists, Roman ruins, super old buildings... But also much more difficulty to get to the nature, which you seem to have super close via the sea or a super wild Canadian forest!
Indeed, it's a whole different place.
Different lifestyle too. If your girlfriend enjoys shopping and monuments, she would probably be quite disappointed living in my city, haha.
The decision to move out of Montreal was made during the pandemic.

On a side note, I grew up in France near the Mediterranean Sea and moved to Canada around 2003. Back in my childhood (wow, that suddenly makes me feel really old!), the hottest summer days would reach about 33–34 degrees at most. I can't even imagine what 40 degrees feels like -- I suppose it's just barely tolerable, and definitely not something you would call enjoyable.
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: roudoudou on 18:56, 21 June 25
Quote from: norecess464 on 21:21, 20 June 25Oh, I have a feeling you're going to hate me -- it's 13 degrees here right now, and I'm not even joking.  Weather forecast (https://meteo.gc.ca/fr/location/index.html?coords=50.218,-66.373)

we can see in France the giant canadian fires smog in the atmosphere...
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: norecess464 on 23:09, 21 June 25
Quote from: roudoudou on 18:56, 21 June 25
Quote from: norecess464 on 21:21, 20 June 25Oh, I have a feeling you're going to hate me -- it's 13 degrees here right now, and I'm not even joking.  Weather forecast (https://meteo.gc.ca/fr/location/index.html?coords=50.218,-66.373)
we can see in France the giant canadian fires smog in the atmosphere...
Yep. It's terrifying to think how far-reaching these fires are... climate change is real.

What I can say about where I live is that in recent years, it has become common to see temperatures above 25 degrees during the summer -- something that used to be quite rare in the past. Unfortunately, the forests aren't adapted to this kind of stress, which explains the increasing number of fires...

btw, Canada is big. Right now the weather is a normal one where I live, while the fires are active in the west of Canada (Manitoba).
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: trocoloco on 09:57, 22 June 25
Quote from: cwpab on 08:37, 21 June 25BTW, only 33% of Spanish households had an air-conditioner in 2022, but the number has reached 50%... If anyone is looking for a winning investment, check out air-conditioner companies in Spain.

PS: I don't leave my house very much, but the extreme weather makes it hard to even be outside for some minutes... But with "regular" cold weather, at least it's warmer during the day! The way heat pauses your body during the day in these conditons without an air-conditioner makes it hard to think or even eat... you're less hungry!

It depends where in Spain the percentage changes, in souther Spain, where I live, is over 70% of AC in houses, but it fluctuactes arond 60-70 in big cities, specially from mid to southern Spain. In this time around we change the spoon for the forks or cold soups like gazpacho, pipirrana, papas aliñás or salmorejo...
And yes during hot hours specially from 11 - 12 to 8 - 9 is hard to stay outside and work as excesive heat drains energy, you'll get used to it with time and try to keep persianas down for most of the day as open windows will only bring the heat in
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: Prodatron on 10:47, 22 June 25
Quote from: norecess464 on 13:39, 21 June 25On a side note, I grew up in France near the Mediterranean Sea and moved to Canada around 2003.
Seems, that you escaped from the catastrophic heatwave of 2003 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heatwave#France) just in time.
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: Bryce on 11:03, 22 June 25
It's going to be 35°C here today. No A/C, just a cold beer!  :D

Too hot for doing electronics though :( and I was hoping to finally finish off a project today.

Bryce.
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: cwpab on 09:37, 23 June 25
BTW, good thing we don't use Farenheit in any of our countries...

Imagine having to start the discussion with a "It's 104º F here in Spain!".
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: eto on 16:26, 23 June 25
Quote from: Prodatron on 10:47, 22 June 25catastrophic heatwave of 2003 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heatwave#France)
That was insane.

I had a convertible back then and it was so hot that the wind while driving didn't have any cooling effect.
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: Bryce on 19:27, 23 June 25
Quote from: cwpab on 09:37, 23 June 25BTW, good thing we don't use Farenheit in any of our countries...

Imagine having to start the discussion with a "It's 104º F here in Spain!"

We hit 310° Kelvin here yesterday! :D

Bryce.
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: Gryzor on 11:08, 24 June 25
Me here: expecting it to hit 39o tomorrow.
Wife in Dublin: "glad I packed my raincoat".
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 09:49, 25 June 25
https://twitter.com/WXWatcher07/status/1937588617712660553?
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: roudoudou on 12:14, 25 June 25
stay indoor, play CPC (they do not heat room that much)
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: Gryzor on 12:43, 25 June 25
Well,I don't know how high it normally goes in Spain or Portugal, but will that 50 hit Amy populated areas or just the desert?
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: roudoudou on 13:07, 25 June 25
Quote from: Gryzor on 12:43, 25 June 25Well,I don't know how high it normally goes in Spain or Portugal, but will that 50 hit Amy populated areas or just the desert?
desert is in the north of spain, Sevilla region is very dense, as every coasts

anyway, plants dies at theses temperatures

2 or 3 years ago, many olive trees dies because of the lack of water (and strong temperatures)

not sure if we can feed us only with cactus...
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: Gryzor on 13:18, 25 June 25
I don't know that olive trees die due to adverse conditions? Last year here it was very hot and very dry, but it only affected the olive oil production, the trees pulled through.

Interesting discussion :D
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: roudoudou on 13:39, 25 June 25
Quote from: Gryzor on 13:18, 25 June 25I don't know that olive trees die due to adverse conditions? Last year here it was very hot and very dry, but it only affected the olive oil production, the trees pulled through.

Interesting discussion :D
There is also a bacteria which kills olive trees drying them (Xylella fastidiosa ) and the effects are boosted by heat
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: Gryzor on 13:59, 25 June 25
Fuck that's bad ☹️

Thankfully this year's crop here seems to be going well up to now, at least. We have our own grove and I'm really used to our own supply... 
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: cwpab on 12:29, 29 June 25
Quote from: XeNoMoRPH on 09:49, 25 June 25https://twitter.com/WXWatcher07/status/1937588617712660553?

Well, at least Spain has acquired a characteristic jamón ibérico look.

I guess we're ready to be eaten by global warming!
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: cwpab on 12:37, 29 June 25
Day 2 / 3 of the 40ºC max over here.

Still no air conditioner (next week), not even a fan (it was supposed to arrive 2 days ago!).

House is 28ºC at night and 29.5ºC during the day. I must drink a lot, yes, but not with abandon. Our bodies have a liquid absorbtion limit too!
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: Prodatron on 13:30, 29 June 25
Quote from: cwpab on 12:37, 29 June 25House is 28ºC at night and 29.5ºC during the day. I must drink a lot, yes, but not with abandon. Our bodies have a liquid absorbtion limit too!
Oooh shit, my brain wouldn't work anymore in a useful way at such temperatures...
Hope the aircon will arrive soon.
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: Gryzor on 14:15, 29 June 25
28o? Oh come on, those are rookie numbers😁
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: lightforce6128 on 17:59, 29 June 25
Now it is starting here, too. 30°C now, up to 37°C to come in the next few days. The wall insulation will hold this back for 1-2 days, then it will feel like being in an oven. (And then the insulation will have an adverse effect: it will keep the heat inside the building!)

Do not use water only from the inside, but from the outside, too!  ;D
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: cwpab on 19:09, 29 June 25
Yeah I think you mean like... I should throw a bucket of water over my head right? Every now and then.

Will consider it.
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: norecess464 on 19:30, 29 June 25
Quote from: roudoudou on 18:56, 21 June 25we can see in France the giant canadian fires smog in the atmosphere...
Also, while I'm thinking about it, there are two things worth noting:

Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: Prodatron on 19:30, 29 June 25
Quote from: Gryzor on 14:15, 29 June 2528o? Oh come on, those are rookie numbers😁
I mean inside. IIRC it doesn't matter if you are used to it or not, but the power of the brain starts to decrease a lot at 25° and more in multiple steps.
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: Gryzor on 10:54, 01 July 25
Quote from: Prodatron on 19:30, 29 June 25
Quote from: Gryzor on 14:15, 29 June 2528o? Oh come on, those are rookie numbers😁
I mean inside. IIRC it doesn't matter if you are used to it or not, but the power of the brain starts to decrease a lot at 25° and more in multiple steps.
Well, first of all, I was obviously joking :)

Other than that, being used to it DOES make a difference. I can easily go walk/shopping in the city centre under 42 or 43 degrees with no problem (as long as I can get a shower when I get back). 28° for me is juuuust perfect - actually just a couple of days ago I was sitting out on the balcony working on a project and it was 29, was wearing a tank top and it felt so damn nice - let alone the fact that I was actually really productive and made great progress.

Also, of course, you have to take into consideration that, although I know of the claim about losing brain functions over 25, it's pretty much nonsensical because absolute temperatures don't say much - relative humidity and windchill factor plays a huge role. Yeah, I can understand why people in London start dying when temperatures go over 30, yet 32-33° is really fine in Athens' climate.
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: cwpab on 12:34, 01 July 25
Seems like things go back to "2021 normal" (not really normal) in a couple of days over here... Phfew..
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: Bryce on 18:39, 01 July 25
We made it to 36°C here today and it's going to be 38°C tomorrow. But the temperature isn't really the problem, it's the humidity that gets me.

Bryce.
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: cwpab on 19:53, 01 July 25
Yes, so I've heard. The water in the air makes the UK feel like Seoul these days... Ouch.

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/4ac5e45608dd1e5cf9899b7ba473fa8c/70af99e60fa65450-16/s540x810/131127a57c4ef24a6548df71581e8728e0fd297d.gif)
It's not the temperature or the humidity by themselves... It's the combination of both elements!
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: cwpab on 07:00, 03 July 25
My male, 33yo cousin was taken to the hospital yesterday due to a heat stroke.

He has a strong complexion, but is working in a warehouse with no air-conditioned, spending all morning there, sometimes carrying heavy weights, and at a temperature of around 27ºC-28ºC (bit colder than my house, but still).

Says he "forgot to drink water all morning". Big mistake. Also, going in and out an office with strong air-conditioned, like at 23ºC, could have been key.

In my case (45yo), I've also been feeling pretty dizzy when spending 5-10 minutes inside an urban bus due to the crazy air-conditioner there, totally out of control, and the contrast with the 35ºC-40ºC outside. Hope my home system doesn't feel this way.
Title: Re: It's 40ºC here in Spain! Nice spring weather
Post by: cwpab on 07:20, 05 July 25
I FINALLY HAVE A FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

...have I become a youtuber? No! I'm talking about the household applliance, not the person watching videos compulsively.

I must return it beecause it's too noisy, something's unalligned. BAD FAN! TOXIC FANDOM!

Will wait until the air-conditioner to do said operaion, though.   ;D
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