Found here on a podcast I listen to:
http://www.modernmann.co.uk/
Interview starts around 27:30. It's around 5 -6 minutes long:
http://stitched-files.bwh9c8255b4.netdna-cdn.com/stitch1/themodernmann/3-7-letsgobrown-signing/9XPmcoD1KINsKZ96sS5ReQ.mp3?ci=359a75ce-6466-4638-b03d-0546a6cebada&aid=38170ce9-f5e0-4568-a4cd-45386a316a03&chid=305b4a4f-ffc0-4b7e-870c-867da3677567