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Title: Retro rasters
Post by: Gryzor on 10:46, 02 December 13
So, as the weather got colder here in Athens we started using the odd blankets. One of these was a thin, woolen blanket (in Greek: χράμι) that my grandmother made on a loom, some -oh, maybe 80 years ago.


So it occurred to me: look at those rasters! Mind you, the loom has a practically infinite vertical resolution since the product can be as long as you want it to be, and there's only one colour per line because displaying multiple colours is too time-consuming (if possible at all with this kind of cloth), but what is there is lovely.


This is my new favorite blanket.


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Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Bryce on 11:17, 02 December 13
Your grandmother was obviously an Atari / Jeff Minter fan....

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Bryce.
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Gryzor on 11:37, 02 December 13
Indeed! And the stories she'd told me about how they used hemp oil as a painkiller... :D
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Bryce on 11:41, 02 December 13
By smoking it? :D

Bryce.
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Gryzor on 11:48, 02 December 13
No, applying it, but who knows what those old people used to do when they got back from the fields...
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: redbox on 13:49, 02 December 13
All you need now is two wooden battens and someone (a wife maybe?) to hold both ends and pull on them alternately.  Then you having a moving raster  ;)

Next step would be to print out a sinus table and get her to move the raster accordingly = bouncing sinus raster.

Oh the fun could be endless.  8)
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: MaV on 13:56, 02 December 13
You can do sinus patterns by putting the blanket over you outstretched legs.

And what's more, the demo effect is enhanced by providing input to your olfactory senses. ;)

Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: arnoldemu on 14:00, 02 December 13
I love the way she mostly used CPC colours.
CPC was ahead of it's time.
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: MaV on 14:04, 02 December 13
The "pixels" are double-width as well! Proper MODE 0, love it!
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Bryce on 14:06, 02 December 13
Quote from: redbox on 13:49, 02 December 13
All you need now is two wooden battens and someone (a wife maybe?) to hold both ends and pull on them alternately.  Then you having a moving raster  ;)

Next step would be to print out a sinus table and get her to move the raster accordingly = bouncing sinus raster.

Oh the fun could be endless.  8)

So let me get this straight... You're going to hand your missus 2 battens and then tell her to prance about to make her a living 8-bit demo? That's just asking to go wrong. I can only imagine where those battens are going to end up being stuffed.

Bryce.
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Gryzor on 15:54, 02 December 13
Wish she was still alive. Of course, she'd be about 110 by now, but if her eyes and hands still held she could probably make awesome sprite-based stuff...
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Bryce on 15:56, 02 December 13
Na, be happy that she never got to see Jeff Minters later work, it would have ruined it for her (it did for me) :(

Bryce.
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Gryzor on 15:58, 02 December 13
Space Giraffe was plain awesome, but it'd have taken her another ten years, probably, to fit all that was going on.
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: ralferoo on 13:33, 03 December 13
If you film it, you could enter it into a wild compo...  ;D
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Gryzor on 13:59, 03 December 13
What, as in "drunken chicks on spring break"?
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: arnoldemu on 14:16, 03 December 13
Quote from: ralferoo on 13:33, 03 December 13
If you film it, you could enter it into a wild compo...  ;D
Like.

Another idea:

Take a piece of clear plastic and some pens, colour in some letters on it, then move it over the top of the sheet, and you now have a scroller over your rasters.

EDIT:

And another. Get a rastafarian to sit on the sheet, and you now have a rasta over rasters.


No more ideas from me now  :laugh:
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Gryzor on 14:18, 03 December 13
The first idea is really cool, actually; if I wasn't too bored to sit down and fill in big pixels with a felt pen on a plastic sheet I'd do it and film it :D
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: redbox on 14:18, 03 December 13
Quote from: arnoldemu on 14:16, 03 December 13
No more ideas from me now  :laugh:

Play Commando on a kazoo for the soundtrack?
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Gryzor on 14:20, 03 December 13
Nah, we should have that awesome dude doing all the acapella chiptunes on Youtube...
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Bryce on 14:23, 03 December 13
How about stretching the blanket slightly wider than it is and then claiming that you had to use CRTC register tricks / overscan to make the effect? :)

Bryce.
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Gryzor on 14:32, 03 December 13
Unfortunately that material is very inflexible, but it's already overscan: more than covers a queen-size bed!
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: arnoldemu on 15:00, 03 December 13
Quote from: Gryzor on 14:32, 03 December 13
Unfortunately that material is very inflexible, but it's already overscan: more than covers a queen-size bed!
can it be underscanned by folding it?


Diagonal rasters by laying it in a different direction across the bed?
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Gryzor on 15:02, 03 December 13
Not really; then either one's head and one's feet will be cold, or half of each of us. Not very practical.
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Bryce on 15:48, 03 December 13
Quote from: Gryzor on 15:02, 03 December 13
Not really; then either one's head and one's feet will be cold, or half of each of us. Not very practical.

Yeah, but if you use a smaller area you can refresh it more often and the animation will look smoother :)

Bryce.
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Gryzor on 15:50, 03 December 13
The way I read it: smaller blanket=>people come closer then=>animation" gets going.
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Bryce on 16:14, 03 December 13
Quote from: Gryzor on 15:50, 03 December 13
The way I read it: smaller blanket=>people come closer then=>animation" gets going.

You don't get much smoother than that! ;)

Bryce.
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: MaV on 16:32, 03 December 13
Quote from: Gryzor on 15:50, 03 December 13
The way I read it: smaller blanket=>people come closer then=>animation" gets going.
That's called interlacing, except it's done at varying speeds and much slower than 25Hz. On the other hand, there's no flickering and it also is a much more pleasurable experience. ;)
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Gryzor on 17:52, 03 December 13
True, but it's bat etiquette to watch and go "wooow how did he do that?!"
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: arnoldemu on 19:43, 03 December 13
Quote from: Gryzor on 17:52, 03 December 13
True, but it's bat etiquette to watch and go "wooow how did he do that?!"

You could pour some bleach on it, and there would be wonderful white circles and new colours that would appear.

(But only a one time effect so be ready with a camera).

BTW, I really wish I had a raster blanket too ;)
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: TFM on 20:17, 03 December 13
I only have a monochrome blanket, INK 0,1. But it's definitely full screen  :laugh:
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: arnoldemu on 10:49, 04 December 13
Does your blanket support Plus features?

Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: remax on 14:19, 04 December 13
Quote from: TFM on 20:17, 03 December 13
I only have a monochrome blanket, INK 0,1. But it's definitely full screen  :laugh:

Another of these shitty spectrum ported blankets  :-X
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: robcfg on 14:55, 04 December 13
I have a gray one, does it make me a Commodore guy?  :P
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Bryce on 15:59, 04 December 13
No, it has to be pure brown for Commodore.

Bryce.
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Gryzor on 16:39, 04 December 13
Actually... I also have a light beige one with brown tones, that's f*cking amazing :D Of course it's a lower resolution (single bed), but I think grandma got her bases covered!
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Bryce on 16:57, 04 December 13
Did she claim the brown one sounds better than all the other ones? :D

Bryce.
Title: Re: Retro rasters
Post by: Gryzor on 17:10, 04 December 13
Not that I heard of, but then again with all that hemp oil...
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