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Title: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: SyX on 21:33, 01 December 14
It looks that the speccy guys are going to have a lucky end of the year, Speccy Vega (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/sinclair-zx-spectrum-vega)... maybe one day we'll see a CPC Aldebaran, hahaha, although in our case is not going to be a console pad :P... @ralferoo (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=476) shows us the light in 1080p... with R3 scroll of course ;)
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: Sykobee (Briggsy) on 21:54, 01 December 14
Heh, it's just an emulator on a cheap microcontroller/SoC (probably ARM) and some controls, in what looks like a 3D printed case (so far).  At least they've licenced the names and so on.
The C64 DTV was far more interesting, being a custom ASIC that re-implemented the C64 (even exposing the expansions on the pcb) with some enhancements.


OTOH, being an emulator system, there's nothing stopping them adding CPC, etc, capability for it.
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: EgoTrip on 21:56, 01 December 14
Maybe a better name for CPC would be CaPriCorn
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: SyX on 22:48, 01 December 14
I read too fast @Sykobee (Briggsy) (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=100), i though it was another ZX Uno (http://zxuno.speccy.org/index_e.shtml) (a nice zx fpga clone made by a spanish friends). But certainly, it's a good move that they are trying to get the licences in everything :) 

Quote from: EgoTrip on 21:56, 01 December 14
Maybe a better name for CPC would be CaPriCorn
Indeed!!! :) I like it!!! :D :D :D
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: ralferoo on 23:18, 01 December 14
I'd be surprised if it's "just" an software emulator on a SOC as Chris Smith has been working on his FPGA Harlequin emulator for quite some time now and he's one of the project leads.

Also, it's a bit strange to have so few keys, especially when they don't include J and ENTER! :D
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: chinnyhill10 on 02:18, 02 December 14
Looks rubbish to me. Almost as bad as that joke of a bluetooth keyboard project which is either late or dead.
Title: Sinclair ZX Spectrum Vega
Post by: Gryzor on 06:26, 02 December 14
Here: Sinclair ZX Spectrum Vega | Indiegogo (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/sinclair-zx-spectrum-vega)


This is an interesting project, in the sense that it's a nice reimagined ZX in the vein of the c64 TV (or however that one was called).


Sinclair Spectrum ZX Vega advert (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN8aDkgqHn4#ws)


However, the price (£100) is rather steep, and boy does that controller look totally non-ergonomic... I wonder if those keys are dead-flesh ones, too, for that extra realism :D
Title: Re: Sinclair ZX Spectrum Vega
Post by: villain on 07:19, 02 December 14
Quote from: Gryzor on 06:26, 02 December 14
and boy does that controller look totally non-ergonomic...
They really try to keep the good old traditions of Sinclair. :-) Already the second thread about this little Speccy-thingy. Seems to be very fascinating for us CPC guys.  ;D 
Title: Re: Sinclair ZX Spectrum Vega
Post by: Gryzor on 07:21, 02 December 14
Oh, I didn't see the other thread, silly me...

Yes, it's fascinating, I guess we're a bit jealous :)
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: jrodriguezv on 08:45, 02 December 14
I like full keyboards. :-(. Anyway lots of ZX projects and very few CPC projects
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: Optimus on 12:32, 02 December 14
Ah, another nostalgia project. Usually they fail.
But good names behind this one.
But don't know if I would want one. Too many spent already. And not enough interested.
Maybe if it was a CPC remake? Not sure.


p.s. I just checked the price. 100 pounds? With emulator, you could connect a raspberry pi with some keyboard for half of the price. Or buy a Dingoo with TV-Out cable for 50 euros. And people argue about the keys, some games like text adventures and others. I wouldn't like a spectrum that is less than the original spectrum. I could just hook mine with the DIVIDE again and start playing.
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: MacDeath on 23:11, 02 December 14
QuoteTurning the speccy into a 5 button console-pad
Sooo missing the point and the fact it was supposed to be a computer, otherwise a shitty console.
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: ukmarkh on 21:04, 04 December 14
I was just saying to another forum member that they they should have made a Three-In-One Amstrad, Speccy and C64
Title: Re: Sinclair ZX Spectrum Vega
Post by: cpc4eva on 21:08, 04 December 14
it is gaining alot of interest for sure....

about a week or so ago on FB i was chatting to Mark Hall and told him id love to build a new cpc with backwards compatibility but also with new tech and allow anyone to code produce games for it and make their own hardwares and build their own operating systems ect etc id want it to be a real hobbyists computer like the old days and also not to forget allow online gameplay and apps !!!
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: TFM on 21:23, 04 December 14
CPC and c64 in one case? That's like to have a hooker and a nun as roommates at the same time. Or Einstein and Tyson. Or a T-Rex and a Bunny or...... it's against nature.  :laugh:
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: ralferoo on 23:21, 04 December 14
Quote from: ralferoo on 23:18, 01 December 14
I'd be surprised if it's "just" an software emulator on a SOC as Chris Smith has been working on his FPGA Harlequin emulator for quite some time now and he's one of the project leads.
He's confirmed on another mailing list that it's just a software emulator running on ARM... :(
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: Bryce on 08:54, 05 December 14
Quote from: TFM on 21:23, 04 December 14
CPC and c64 in one case? That's like to have a hooker and a nun as roommates at the same time. Or Einstein and Tyson. Or a T-Rex and a Bunny or...... it's against nature.  :laugh:

The nun/hooker roommates don't sound all that bad, have they got a spare room free for me? :D

But, as TFM is trying to point out, if you are going to put multiple computers in a case, then they should at least use the same processor.

Bryce.
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: Prodatron on 10:26, 05 December 14
Quote from: Bryce on 08:54, 05 December 14then they should at least use the same processor.
Yes, they would use the ARM  :P
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: Bryce on 10:35, 05 December 14
Quote from: Prodatron on 10:26, 05 December 14
Yes, they would use the ARM  :P

Oh, so it's going to be an Acorn? :D

Bryce.

Edit: by amazing coincidence, this is my 6502th post :D
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: Gryzor on 18:07, 05 December 14
I got excited when I first saw it - for a good ten seconds.

Then I realised it's only god a handful of keys, so it's really a controller.
Then I realised they went for the worst possible controller, one with rubber keys.
Then I saw the price.
And then I thought, "no way they're licensing 1000 games".

Seems really half-baked to me...
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: TFM on 18:29, 05 December 14
I can't use the Like button. 2 Likes for Bryce please!  :)
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: Gryzor on 18:30, 05 December 14
(Likes - yeah, sorry, fixing some code and it's been disabled temporarily)
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: TFM on 18:32, 05 December 14
*Like* for Gryzor  ;)
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: Gryzor on 18:33, 05 December 14
No "lol" button either :D
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: TFM on 18:37, 05 December 14
Quote from: Prodatron on 10:26, 05 December 14
Yes, they would use the ARM  :P


In this case, you can just stay with the PC and use all the big variety of emulators. Why downgrade to an ARM? It's not even a real CPU simulator like the C-One or the T-Rex.
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: Prodatron on 20:52, 05 December 14
@TFM (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=179), next time I will add "just joking" to my comment  ;D
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: TFM on 22:24, 05 December 14
Quote from: Prodatron on 20:52, 05 December 14
@TFM (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=179), next time I will add "just joking" to my comment  ;D


Never mind, didn't find enough sleep the whole week, am probably just not in best shape.  :-X
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: ZbyniuR on 05:12, 06 December 14
I think Amstrad still have copyright for computers with name Sinclair, so full keyboard with that name will never happen.
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: Gryzor on 09:00, 06 December 14
Quote from: ZbyniuR on 05:12, 06 December 14
I think Amstrad still have copyright for computers with name Sinclair, so full keyboard with that name will never happen.


Good point, though it affects the name/logo, mostly. I don't think a cut-down design infringes less than a full-size keyboard.
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: ralferoo on 09:41, 06 December 14
Sky Broadcasting bought Amstrad a few years ago (as they were the primary supplier of set top boxes and it presumably saved them some money to do so) and so all the Sinclair name rights belong to Murdoch's empire now...

Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: Gryzor on 12:25, 06 December 14
True.
Title: Re: Sinclair ZX Spectrum Vega
Post by: Gryzor on 12:28, 06 December 14
Something like that would be great, as discussed before... I'm finding the CosmosEx (for the Atari ST series) to be very interesting and useful - it uses a Pi to do all the hard work, plus an add-on board that does the ST-specific things.
Title: Re: Sinclair ZX Spectrum Vega
Post by: Zoe Robinson on 20:45, 06 December 14
CosmosEx? Who on Earth names a product something that can easily be misread as "cosmo sex"?  :o
Title: Re: Sinclair ZX Spectrum Vega
Post by: CraigsBar on 22:45, 06 December 14
Quote from: Zoe Robinson on 20:45, 06 December 14
CosmosEx? Who on Earth names a product something that can easily be misread as "cosmo sex"?  :o
The same people who ran Italian powergen when their website was www.powergenitalia.com or www.therapistfinder.com

Craig
Title: Re: Sinclair ZX Spectrum Vega
Post by: TFM on 01:04, 08 December 14
Quote from: Zoe Robinson on 20:45, 06 December 14
CosmosEx? Who on Earth names a product something that can easily be misread as "cosmo sex"?  :o


What's bad about cosmos sex? Violence in contrast seems to be accepted. I don't understand humans!  :-\
Title: Re: Sinclair ZX Spectrum Vega
Post by: Gryzor on 18:05, 17 December 14
I liked kidsexchange.com (which has changed its URL from what I see though...).

Powergen takes the cookie though :D
Title: build it and they will come.....
Post by: cpc4eva on 06:48, 24 December 14
so we see a new speccy built and being sold.....

ZX Spectrum gets new lease of life as Vega games console | Technology | The (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/dec/02/zx-spectrum-vega-games-console)

The Vega mimics the design of the Spectrum, but is a handheld games controller with five buttons and control pad, and includes 1,000 games from the 1980s. Gone is the tape and the full keyboard, but the tinny speaker and coloured stripes remain.

"The Sinclair Spectrum Vega takes advantage of major advances in technology to achieve big cost savings by replacing most of the electronics in the earlier computer products," said Retro Computers, backed by 74-year-old Sinclair as an investor, in the Indiegogo campaign.

"Instead the Vega uses a low cost micro-controller and a clever piece of software that combine to enable the Vega to [download and] run all of the games, 14,000 or more of them, which were developed during the years when some 5 million of the original Sinclair Spectrum were being sold."

The Luton-based startup Retro Computers rolled out the campaign 32 years after the first ZX Spectrum with a prototype ready, the name and computer intellectual property licensed from Sky, who bought it from Sir Alan Sugar's Amstrad.
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The console plugs straight into a TV and was designed and developed by Chris Smith, a former ZX Spectrum games developer and foremost expert on the aged system.

The company is currently in negotiations with thousands of Spectrum developers to ask permission to use their games on the Vega, which should be able run any software developed for the original ZX including Chuckie Egg, Manic Miner, Chequered Flag, Horace Goes Skiing and Jet Set Willy. Users will also be able to load their own games using an SD card.

The 10% software royalties owed to the Spectrum game developers will be paid to the Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children.

Although over a quarter of a century old, the Spectrum has retained its appeal with nostalgic gamers, and has been repeatedly repackaged for modern audiences. In 2002, the Amstrad Emailer Plus phone came with a built-in Spectrum emulator, while in 2013, veteran developer and publisher Elite Systems released a bluetooth Spectrum keyboard for use with iPhone and Android handsets.

Retro Computers is looking for £100,000 in funding to start production, with the first 1,000 Vegas costing £100 each available in April. More than £33,000 has been pledged at the time of writing already with 60 days left to go.

new c64s built and sold....

New Commodore 64 is Finally Here--For Real! | TechHive (http://www.techhive.com/article/224722/new_commodore_64_is_finally_here_for_real.html)

The new Commodore 64 is, like the old 64, an entire system inside a (rather thick) keyboard. The old Commodore 64 originally cost $595 and featured an MOS Technology 6510 microprocessor, an impressive 64KB of RAM, and VIC-II graphics that supported a screen resolution of 320 by 200 pixels.

The new system, which also starts at $595, is a little more modern: it's got a Dual Core 525 Atom processor, an Nvidia Ion2 graphics chipset, 2GB of RAM (upgradeable to 4GB), a 160GB hard drive, and built-in Wi-Fi. On the left side of the keyboard there's a slot or tray-load DVD (upgradeable to Blu-ray), and on the right side there's a multi-format card reader, along with a USB 2.0 port. The rear features four additional USB 2.0 ports; mouse and keyboard PS/2 ports; DVI, VGA, and HDMI ports; Ethernet; and support for 6-channel HD audio. It runs Linux, but you can install Windows if you like.

Pretty cool for a computer that looks like it's from the 80's. Of course, if you just want the look--and you want to throw your own stuff inside--you can also order the "Barebones" package on the new Commodore 64 Website. The Barebones package costs $250 and gets you the case, chassis, keyboard, and multi-format card reader with USB 2.0 port. On the other hand, if you'd like to go all out, there's also an $895 "Ultimate" package that includes a Blu-ray drive and a 1TB hard drive.



so why not a new cpc being built and sold ???


Title: Re: build it and they will come.....
Post by: dcdrac on 10:17, 24 December 14
need a kickstarter camapign matbe based on something like a raspberry pi?
Title: Re: build it and they will come.....
Post by: Bryce on 10:50, 24 December 14
It has certainly gathered enough threads, if not funds :D This is the third thread on the Forum about this. @Gryzor (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1) can you combine them all into one?

Bryce.
Title: Re: build it and they will come.....
Post by: cpc4eva on 11:17, 24 December 14
Quote from: dcdrac on 10:17, 24 December 14
need a kickstarter camapign matbe based on something like a raspberry pi?

there would need to be blueprint diagrams, working model design, and a prototype built as well as what cpcer's would want included in any new cpc modelb4 its done ..... otherwise u end up with a crapola machine
Title: Re: build it and they will come.....
Post by: Gryzor on 11:40, 24 December 14
That's what happens when you don't search before posting... (guilty as charged!). Ok, let's see if I can merge them :)
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: villain on 11:56, 24 December 14

The news about the new C64 are already from 2011. The company doesn't exist anymore. That's what I know.
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: AMSDOS on 13:00, 24 December 14
Somehow I favoured the newer C64 that was lifted from the C128, the early C64 looks more like the VIC-20, so funny that cause it would of been lifted from the VIC-20, so a C64 never had an originally designed Box!  ;D
Title: Re: ZX Spectrum Vega...
Post by: dcdrac on 11:46, 31 December 14
That C64 PC redo was not really a starter nor a goer if you think about, why shell out for an emulator running on a PC when you can get them for free.

While a CPC would be nice ti would be the same issue.
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