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Title: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: McArti0 on 15:04, 17 March 22
512x464 in mode 2
H 27kHz
V 60Hz.
text 64x57
;D
Title: Re: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: Audronic on 23:13, 17 March 22
@McArti0 

Can you supply a schematic (Pinout) of how you did it ?

Thanks

Keep Safe

Ray
Title: Re: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: McArti0 on 07:01, 18 March 22
98 r=&BC00:d=&BD00
99 REM 848x480 @ 60Hz (512x464 T64x58)
100 OUT r,0:OUT d,36
101 OUT r,1:OUT d,32
102 OUT r,2:OUT d,33
103 OUT r,3:OUT d,4
104 OUT r,4:OUT d,62
106 OUT r,6:OUT d,58
107 OUT r,7:OUT d,59 <--errata
109 OUT r,9:OUT d,7

save"VGA.bas",a

https://cpcwiki.de/forum/index.php?topic=735.0

and my experimental soft from other topic. "256x256 mode 0 ......"  use first setting run 64 and after vga.bas from this topic.
Title: Re: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: McArti0 on 08:37, 18 March 22
I found interesting thing.

https://www.retrorgb.com/vgaconnector.html

https://cdn.retrorgb.com/images/VGAConnector-02.jpg

RGB-IN maybe it's not exactly the same as VGA-IN. Maybe that's why don't need a chapter between Hsyn and Vsync in TV connetor?
Title: Re: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: McArti0 on 01:54, 19 March 22
8) It's not end.......
Title: Re: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: HAL6128 on 09:23, 19 March 22
It's a TV which also is able to display 15kHz pictures
Title: Re: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: McArti0 on 10:22, 19 March 22
Quote from: HAL6128 on 09:23, 19 March 22It's a TV which also is able to display 15kHz pictures
But native do not show picture from Amstrad. Not recognized frame format.

WATCH THIS !!!!!
Title: Re: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: HAL6128 on 14:17, 19 March 22
yeah! very impressive.
Title: Re: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: Skunkfish on 18:55, 20 March 22
I don't get it, is the CPC really outputting an image 1024 pixels across or is it fooling the monitor in some way? And the monitor horizontal resolution is only 720?
Title: Re: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: McArti0 on 21:47, 20 March 22
Quote from: Skunkfish on 18:55, 20 March 22I don't get it, is the CPC really outputting an image 1024 pixels across or is it fooling the monitor in some way? And the monitor horizontal resolution is only 720?

This is an example of how you can reconfigure the CRTC chip in Amstrad and OS to use all 65kB Video RAM. Amstrad can show max resolution 1024x512 @ 25Hz. (or 1072x480).

Real resolution of the TV monitor is 1366 × 768 (HD Ready). TV monitor recognized Amstrad's modificated FRAME as 720x480 @30Hz. Maybe interpolated/rescaling, maybe no... :-)
A Miracle that it works. ;)

ps. I always must found typical acpect ratio of FRAME in standard VESA. Other way I must found other Monitor, but I have not it.
Title: Re: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: McArti0 on 23:53, 09 May 22
My TV not recognized standard Amstrad's Frame by VGA connector, BUT .... swith ON Interlace Sync Raster Scan Mode.

OUT &BC00,8 : OUT &BD00,1 and WORK !
Title: Re: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: McArti0 on 09:19, 07 November 22
Adapter CPC to VGA on ebay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/265859866669?hash=item3de67ba02d:g:i1MAAOSwGcNjDhLJ&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoK%2Bt9p45QH0KOFitanMn%2Frge5YXGW9aJNsD5AeNzPvPw2M1gBLiW4u7FAfazd8RcJa%2FSjwh7Dd8Czq%2F2pRGduim21kE0opymmvtp6OY2ElWtEJnUezzjZX8AWdDSgFLnVHir29%2FccB7i3gE5981l1%2FOiYWAb%2FpCh8t%2B4qOLcGJUzjVWaVIPNhXpt1qAnUHq8ayJaD37Gp36S73AtMS9BzEk%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8a90pKKYQ) 
Title: Re: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: TotO on 10:35, 07 November 22
Quote from: McArti0 on 09:19, 07 November 22Adapter CPC to VGA on ebay
It is a scam for the price, it just root the video to the HD15 pins, the monitor require to handle 15kHz/50Hz RGB as input. Sure, it is usable if you change the signals as you done, but the CPC can't display anything else, compared to use a RGB to HDMI converter.
Title: Re: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: McArti0 on 12:02, 07 November 22
This is the price for a niche of cpc. 

"change the signals" ...  OUT &BC00,8:OUT &BD00,1 ... this is not flight to Mars.
In my poll 2 people voted, that the Original Amstrad from 1985 with 5 wire-cord IS NOT RETRO.  :o

RGB to HDMI converter is retro?  ;)
Title: Re: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: TotO on 12:36, 07 November 22
Quote from: McArti0 on 12:02, 07 November 22This is the price for a niche of cpc
Hahaha. It is the price for a "yet another eBay retro business!" ;)

Quote from: McArti0 on 12:02, 07 November 22RGB to HDMI converter is retro?
It is another way to display today the CPC (and other RGB systems), for the same price.
In both case, it is not really retro to not use the CPC with its monitor. (or a CRT TV set with a MP-2 interface)
Title: Re: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: eto on 13:09, 07 November 22
Quote from: McArti0 on 23:53, 09 May 22My TV not recognized standard Amstrad's Frame by VGA connector, BUT .... swith ON Interlace Sync Raster Scan Mode.

OUT &BC00,8 : OUT &BD00,1 and WORK !
will this continue to work with games?
Title: Re: CPC joining to VGA monitor by 5 wire interface.
Post by: McArti0 on 13:37, 07 November 22
Bomb Jack, CP/M plus (very fun game!), Batman Forever demo, in some scenes, frame is crush. But R8 CRTC is not use very often in old games.

ps. should I check something?
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