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Title: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: CrookieMonster on 20:18, 03 August 19
I've come across a 464 Plus, keyboard only. It'll be arriving this week.


It doesn't have a Burnin' Rubber cart with it, though. Will I be able to use the one I got with my GX4000?


Also, what's the best power cable for it and how would I connect it to a LCD monitor?


Any help would be amazing!
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: tjohnson on 01:09, 04 August 19
The burning rubber cart will work but it will effectively be a gx4000 and will boot straight into the game. You won't get basic prompt.


For power you need a 5v supply, with a 2.5mm positive centre tip, get something like 4a rated.


To connect to an lcd TV your best bet is a scart cable, they are sold on ebay. Make sure you get one for a plus model as they have an 8 pin din instead of the original 6 pin din used on the classic Cpc.
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: ComSoft6128 on 06:22, 04 August 19
I use this for a good picture:

https://coolnovelties.co.uk/coolnovelties/amstrad-video-cables/258-amstrad-cpc-464-6128-active-rgb-scart-cable.html (https://coolnovelties.co.uk/coolnovelties/amstrad-video-cables/258-amstrad-cpc-464-6128-active-rgb-scart-cable.html)



Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: CrookieMonster on 07:43, 04 August 19
Thanks both.


Do you know anywhere I can get a Plus System cart? I've seen this: [size=78%]https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Locomotive-Basic-UK-B-Rubber-Cartridge-for-Amstrad-CPC-CPC-464-6128-plus-/293044385661 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Locomotive-Basic-UK-B-Rubber-Cartridge-for-Amstrad-CPC-CPC-464-6128-plus-/293044385661)[/size] Is it decent?
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: pelrun on 11:03, 04 August 19
I'd suggest hitting up @gerald (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=250) for one of his C4CPC carts instead: http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/C4CPC (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/C4CPC)
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: CrookieMonster on 14:53, 04 August 19
Brilliant. I will do.


Just a couple more questions. Apparently the cassette door doesn't stay shut. Is this a common problem? Also, the Amstrad logo under the keyboard is very worn. Does anyone sell replacements?
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: tjohnson on 22:55, 04 August 19
Interesting question on the cassette door, mine is the same, as far as I can tell my door isn't the original one so maybe there were variations, remove the spring and lift it manually.
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: CrookieMonster on 07:20, 05 August 19
Good plan.


Does anyone know how I could restore the logo to its former glory?
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: gerald on 16:49, 05 August 19
Quote from: CrookieMonster on 07:20, 05 August 19
Does anyone know how I could restore the logo to its former glory?
Looks like it faded away due to UV exposure (retrobright treatment?)
Unless replacing it by an other plate, there is no way to save it. Color pigments are no more.
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: CrookieMonster on 20:08, 05 August 19
Any idea what it's made of? I may try and replicate the logo on identical material.
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: tjohnson on 02:59, 06 August 19
Some sort of plastic, you could print one out on a laser printer then laminate as a low cost alt but it won't look oem
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: Bryce on 13:38, 06 August 19
Quote from: CrookieMonster on 07:20, 05 August 19
Good plan.


Does anyone know how I could restore the logo to its former glory?

Cleaning the case with isopropanol does this too. No way back unless you are a master with a fine paintbrush.

Bryce.
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: gerald on 15:30, 06 August 19
Quote from: Bryce on 13:38, 06 August 19
Cleaning the case with isopropanol does this too.
Good to know  :o
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: CrookieMonster on 20:16, 06 August 19
Art isn't my strong point.  ;D  Anybody have a spare knocking around?
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: Bryce on 23:08, 07 August 19
Quote from: CrookieMonster on 20:16, 06 August 19
Art isn't my strong point.  ;D  Anybody have a spare knocking around?

Spare artist? :D

Bryce.
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: CrookieMonster on 20:43, 08 August 19
Haha. It may well come to that.
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: CraigsBar on 19:13, 09 August 19
Quote from: CrookieMonster on 14:53, 04 August 19
Brilliant. I will do.


Just a couple more questions. Apparently the cassette door doesn't stay shut. Is this a common problem? Also, the Amstrad logo under the keyboard is very worn. Does anyone sell replacements?


The door on the Plus tape drives has only a tiny overlap between the tab on the door and the hook on the case.. You may have to glue a small slither of plastic to one (or both) if they are worn to the point that they don't catch any more. I Had to do this to the 464 plus I donated to ChinnyVision ( @chinnyhill10 (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=984) ) Perhaps he can grab some close up images of the catches to show what I mean??

Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: CrookieMonster on 19:37, 09 August 19
If it's possible to see some photos, that would be great. Thanks so much for this tip.


I haven't been able to test the machine yet because I'm looking for a Plus System
Cart. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: chinnyhill10 on 18:52, 11 August 19
Quote from: CraigsBar on 19:13, 09 August 19

The door on the Plus tape drives has only a tiny overlap between the tab on the door and the hook on the case.. You may have to glue a small slither of plastic to one (or both) if they are worn to the point that they don't catch any more. I Had to do this to the 464 plus I donated to ChinnyVision ( @chinnyhill10 (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=984) ) Perhaps he can grab some close up images of the catches to show what I mean??


I'll try and grab a photo later tonight.
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: chinnyhill10 on 22:17, 11 August 19
Is this any help?
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: CraigsBar on 00:25, 12 August 19
Hmm, no not that. Must have been one of the other 464 pluses I posted LOL


But the black hook attached to the eject button can be seen in the photo (See bottom right)


Cut a piece of DVD case plastic to the same shape and glue it on to increase the overlap with the ledge on the back of the Tape Door Frame.


when new the overlap of these 2 hooks was less than 0.5mm so wear and tear reduces this to the point that it does not clip any longer.


widening the black portion of the locking mechanism will keep the door closed.


Craig
Title: Re: Amstrad 464 Plus help needed
Post by: CrookieMonster on 11:28, 12 August 19
Thanks for this, both.


So this is the inside of mine to the right with the button pressed down. Which piece would it be?
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