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Title: Replacing Amsdos with Parados (ROM 7) - downsides?
Post by: eto on 20:21, 21 December 22
If I replace the Amsdos ROM in my 6128 with a Parados EPROM will there be any downsides? Or can I just go ahead and replace the IC?
Title: Re: Replacing Amsdos with Parados (ROM 7) - downsides?
Post by: Squeekboxandj on 20:28, 21 December 22
I replaced the AmsDos rom in the 464 DDI-1 and it works beautifully. You'll just have the added /Drive command when you want to access the Parados command screen. If I recall the Wiki reads that the ParaDos Rom was a full replacement for Amsdos and was written around and included the Amsdos firmware. 
Title: Re: Replacing Amsdos with Parados (ROM 7) - downsides?
Post by: Squeekboxandj on 20:32, 21 December 22
I forgot to add. Hopefully your 6128 has the Amsdos Rom already in a socket for easy removal. My 6128 has Amsdos soldered directly to the motherboard ☹️
Title: Re: Replacing Amsdos with Parados (ROM 7) - downsides?
Post by: GUNHED on 01:29, 22 December 22
ParaDOS will not allow LOGO (both versions of CP/M) to run, because LOGO has some functions inside the AmsDOS ROM. Well, if you don't use LOGO then go on...
Title: Re: Replacing Amsdos with Parados (ROM 7) - downsides?
Post by: Prodatron on 10:14, 22 December 22
Quote from: eto on 20:21, 21 December 22If I replace the Amsdos ROM in my 6128 with a Parados EPROM will there be any downsides? Or can I just go ahead and replace the IC?
Or maybe this is an option for you?
https://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/DualOS
Title: Re: Replacing Amsdos with Parados (ROM 7) - downsides?
Post by: eto on 10:54, 22 December 22
Quote from: Prodatron on 10:14, 22 December 22
Quote from: eto on 20:21, 21 December 22If I replace the Amsdos ROM in my 6128 with a Parados EPROM will there be any downsides? Or can I just go ahead and replace the IC?
Or maybe this is an option for you?
https://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/DualOS

I was thinking of that already, but the question is why Amsdos if Parados is a full replacement. Is there any downside (except for Logo), like bigger memory footprint, incompatibilities with games etc.?

Actually I am looking into replacing the internal ROM with a mini-ROM board with 4 ROMs in a single Eprom. The core ROMs that I like to always have, even with no expansion attached. If there is no need to keep Amsdos in parallel to Parados, I would have space for 1 more ROM.
Title: Re: Replacing Amsdos with Parados (ROM 7) - downsides?
Post by: eto on 10:57, 22 December 22
Quote from: GUNHED on 01:29, 22 December 22ParaDOS will not allow LOGO (both versions of CP/M) to run, because LOGO has some functions inside the AmsDOS ROM. Well, if you don't use LOGO then go on...
yes, I am definitely willing to "give up" Logo. thanks.

btw: is it known which functions they did put into ROM? 
Title: Re: Replacing Amsdos with Parados (ROM 7) - downsides?
Post by: GUNHED on 15:14, 22 December 22
Have a look at the ROM listing, it's around 8 KB, so too much to mention them here.

BTW: I suggest you to use VaraDOS instead of ParaDOS, because it got the Vortex format activated already. And I mention this just because Vortex was (is!?) the standard format for 80 Track drives.
Title: Re: Replacing Amsdos with Parados (ROM 7) - downsides?
Post by: eto on 15:59, 22 December 22
Quote from: GUNHED on 15:14, 22 December 22BTW: I suggest you to use VaraDOS instead of ParaDOS, because it got the Vortex format activated already. And I mention this just because Vortex was (is!?) the standard format for 80 Track drives.
I will use a patched Parados where the standard format is 40 tracks. My normal use case is a Gotek with normal DSK images as B and rarely other formats. 
Title: Re: Replacing Amsdos with Parados (ROM 7) - downsides?
Post by: martin464 on 12:53, 09 January 23
Just did the same trick as squeekbox
not recommended - it works beautifully

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