Ok guys... I'm at a loss.
A while ago we had a discussion about the use of 'mature' language in the forum, and if you'll recall, I was all for it, arguing that we're mature people, certainly all of us adults, who can take replies with a pinch of salt.
It seems that some -very few, but active- of you misinterpreted that and instead thought that it's ok to start posting totally off-topic, totally IMmature and silly replies.
I've deleted so many posts and yet this thing has been going on unabated. Warnings have been issued to members and they have been ignored.
Really?? Can't we have a conversation without inserting sexual innuendos? Aren't we past puberty yet?
It saddens me that it has come to this. If this continues, prepare for temporary, and then permanent, bans.
Feel free to discuss.
IMO we all know how "we" post, and that many things are meant as jokes.
So I have no problems with some "rude" comments here...
But when I think for other users, I can understand that some are a bit pissed off of some postings.
So:
Explicite content is good in instant messengers, emails or private messages.
Or, maybe, also in off-topic postings.
Think:
A visitor reads posts with explicite contents:
He will never visit this forum again...
(I remember I already posted a similar request again)
Please, dear Wiki-users,
overthink, what you post here and also remember:
The sun also shines if you write friendly.
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 12:25, 28 June 10
The sun also shines if you write friendly.
I really liked that :)
But it's not entirely what I meant; what I meant was that it's ok, after all, to say "Fuck the SID! It sucks man!", but it's another thing to say "the SID chip os the child of Satan! It's worse that all the wars combined and a genocide it preferable to using it in my CPC. And btw, I have some nude pics of mine I could share with you but you need to check the price with my pimp first, lol, rofl, wtf etc, as long as you burn all the SID chips to ashes.".
Quote from: Gryzor on 12:31, 28 June 10
I really liked that :)
But it's not entirely what I meant; what I meant was that it's ok, after all, to say "Fuck the SID! It sucks man!", but it's another thing to say "the SID chip os the child of Satan! It's worse that all the wars combined and a genocide it preferable to using it in my CPC. And btw, I have some nude pics of mine I could share with you but you need to check the price with my pimp first, lol, rofl, wtf etc, as long as you burn all the SID chips to ashes.".
I dont want nude pictures from you, Gryzor, thanks for the offer. :police:
Well, I understand you well.
I also find it boring sometimes that a serious thread is gone mad.
Thats why I sometimes dont react to those things ;)
But sometimes it's funny ;)
I'm not taking the bait... :D
You don't need to start a poll about it, but I would like to agree Markus and state that I also definitely don't want to see those nude pictures :)
Bryce.
Nude pictures from Gryzor?
If I may venture a guess:
Those dirty pictures from Gryzor must be disposed of as hazardous waste.
I may be wrong...
Quote from: Gryzor on 11:59, 28 June 10
Warnings have been issued to members and they have been ignored.
I want to be a better man.
Lord knows that I´m trying.
Judging from the result, you're probably going straight to hell...
Quote from: Gryzor on 16:04, 28 June 10
Judging from the result, you're probably going straight to hell...
Dear Gryzor,
may I remind you that Greece receives financial support from Germany?
You MAY NOT ban a german user!
It´s your choice:
BAN or
MONEY
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't notice Germany is giving that money away! So foolish of me, I really thought they're lending once again, so that they make sure previous lenders get their money back...
...ban.
Also, (Sorry, dass ich auf Deutsch schreibe)
Ich bin auch dafür, dass wenn dies hier nicht sofort aufhört, jemand fliegt.
Leonie, Du übertreibst es.
Quote from: Leonie on 16:36, 28 June 10
Dear Gryzor,
may I remind you that Greece receives financial support from Germany?
You MAY NOT ban a german user!
It´s your choice:
BAN or MONEY
I think every country in the European Union, also UK included, financially gives money to EU organisations and helps other countries.
I think if a user is out of order, then they should be banned, and it doesn't matter what country they come from.
If this was football, you would have received a red card and probably been told to leave the match.
If you are joking then I think this has gone too far, but really I am starting to think you are being more serious now.
I totally agree here with Kev.
But it's sad to see that Leonie gets out of control here :(
In my opinion, it's not really an issue to debate.
It's merely about setting the rules, create more moderators, and have those moderators delete the inappropriate posts. No reason to make a fuss about it, just do it.
Quote from: Leonie on 16:36, 28 June 10
Dear Gryzor,
may I remind you that Greece receives financial support from Germany?
You MAY NOT ban a german user!
It´s your choice:
BAN or MONEY
Dear people,
sorry to intervene in your conversation but some posts are making me crazy!!!! Totally crazy!!!
@Leonie: I understand that in Germany an anti-Greek wave is being born and that Germans do not like Greeks since we are 'stealing' your money!
But please do not mess the Greek people in general with the Greek politicians! Our politicians have been stealing money from everywhere, while they were submitting and making public financial reports that were fake, not only to EU but also to us!! Therefore, the
"may I remind you that Greece receives financial support from Germany?" is a totally irrelevant and harsh post!
For instance, I can not blame you for all the crimes and pain that Hitler caused to my grandparents and to grandparents of other users here, during the 1940s. That period, more than 300,000 Greek civilians died from starvation during Nazi occupation, while thousands more were killed in reprisals. Our economy was crippled, as foreign trade was suspended, agricultural output ground to a halt, and the treasury had to loan Germany money!!! In addition to the above, we had to rebuild everything from scratch while compensations from the German side were NEVER paid to the victims!!!
BUT!!!!! I do not blame you as a German citizen!!!!! I simply blame Hitler and the Nazis!
So, please next time be careful and try to be more open minded! Such attitudes made what occurred back then!
In the end, together (united i mean) we have power! Alone we are nothing!
vox
Woooaaa guys, let's all come down a peg and don't let our CPC Wiki turn into an armchair politicians flame war!
Bryce.
Quote from: voXfReaX on 18:07, 28 June 10
Dear people,
sorry to intervene in your conversation but some posts are making me crazy!!!! Totally crazy!!!
@Leonie: I understand that in Germany an anti-Greek wave is being born and that Germans do not like Greeks since we are 'stealing' your money!
But please do not mess the Greek people in general with the Greek politicians! Our politicians have been stealing money from everywhere, while they were submitting and making public financial reports that were fake, not only to EU but also to us!! Therefore, the "may I remind you that Greece receives financial support from Germany?" is a totally irrelevant and harsh post!
For instance, I can not blame you for all the crimes and pain that Hitler caused to my grandparents and to grandparents of other users here, during the 1940s. That period, more than 300,000 Greek civilians died from starvation during Nazi occupation, while thousands more were killed in reprisals. Our economy was crippled, as foreign trade was suspended, agricultural output ground to a halt, and the treasury had to loan Germany money!!! In addition to the above, we had to rebuild everything from scratch while compensations from the German side were NEVER paid to the victims!!!
BUT!!!!! I do not blame you as a German citizen!!!!! I simply blame Hitler and the Nazis!
So, please next time be careful and try to be more open minded! Such attitudes made what occurred back then!
In the end, together (united i mean) we have power! Alone we are nothing!
vox
That's going far to far now!!!
First, everybody has seen that Leonie just made a joke. She is a bit strong sometimes, maybe too strong for people with a thin skin. But we all know that she never had bad intensions. Ok, burning the SID is something different and a holy mission!
But that you come here along with that Nazi-Bullshit - that's relly the last thing in world!
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Ok, it's clear that Leonie was making a joke here, let's not take it too far...
@Mr_Lou: the thing is, up to now the forum has been very friendly, and it'd be nice to keep it that way. I've deleted several posts, and yet the same problems continue. So I only thought it prudent to advise publicly before banning anyone...
Now, if anyone wants to discuss about the Greek predicament and why it has nothing whatsoever to do with the Greek economy and everything to do with a global transfer of wealth to the rich ones at the expense of the social state, you'll find me in the Off-topic subforum. But please don't let us forget that Germany is not helping anyone out of their good hearts - they're doing it to ensure money keeps flowing into their coffers. And before one of our German regulars takes this at heart, let me note I have no grievance against the German people whatsoever despite the recent apparent hostility in the press...
Quote from: Gryzor on 10:21, 29 June 10
the thing is, up to now the forum has been very friendly, and it'd be nice to keep it that way. I've deleted several posts, and yet the same problems continue. So I only thought it prudent to advise publicly before banning anyone...
If it was possible to achieve a 100% friendly forum that easily, then the thousands of artists; songwriters and movie-makers through-out the time, should have achieved world-peace by now also.
Just can't be done.
My advice remains the same: Don't ban anyone unless they're insanely continuesly spamming insults to people. Just keep on deleting bad posts, and have more moderators do the same. Banning is an absolute last resort, if you're really tired of deleting posts from that person.
Quote from: Gryzor on 16:57, 28 June 10
...ban
That day, which you fear as being the end of all things, is the birthday of your eternity.
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 12:25, 28 June 10
The sun also shines if you write friendly.
Siehe, wie fein und lieblich ist´s, wenn Brüder und Schwestern einträchtig beieinander wohnen!
Sorry, english words fail me...
Quote from: Leonie on 20:35, 29 June 10
Siehe, wie fein und lieblich ist´s, wenn Brüder und Schwestern einträchtig beieinander wohnen!
Sorry, english words fail me...
As an englishman, I was brought up to believe that if you speak slowly and loudly :P enough, foreigners
will understand what an englishman says :P , the reverse is not true however, I tried to read that german post slowly, at least twice, but I am just do not understand it. :laugh:
...aaaand banned.
Quote from: TFM/FS on 20:15, 28 June 10
That's going far to far now!!!
First, everybody has seen that Leonie just made a joke. She is a bit strong sometimes, maybe too strong for people with a thin skin. But we all know that she never had bad intensions. Ok, burning the SID is something different and a holy mission!
But that you come here along with that Nazi-Bullshit - that's relly the last thing in world!
First of all man, I do not know Leonie and to tell you the truth i do not care to even speak to her since she speaks with such disrespect for people! YOU might know that she never had bad intensions! NOT ME!!!
And as for the Nazi bullshit (as you said), i have to say one thing: Next time read more carefully what my point is, than just saying whatever just because you want to say something!
@Gryzor/Devilmarkus/admins: If you think that i crossed the line, please ban me! I am not going to blame you! Others are to blame...
Dead on Time and Star Sabre 128K arrived today. Looks excellent. Will try them soon! :)
BTW, I think this discussion should turn off topic :P
I always knew that Leonie was trouble! I suppose I'll be banned next for saying so.
Gryzor! Be careful with the whole banning thing... absolute power corrupts and all that. It stinks of elitism.
And the award for the best thought-out post goes to... Ivarf!
Here you go mate, well-deserved:
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voX, TMF, calm down people, you both only see one part of the situation... Calm down.
@ukmarkh: seeing Leonie's insistence and persistence, I can't help thinking there's more to her (or 'her'), as has been discussed before... but in the end it's just plain stupid and a nuisance. I don't like bans, and to tell you the truth I never thought it'd come to this. It's a temporary ban, but seeing how things went, I won't spill any tears if it becomes a permanent one...
You see!!!! This is what happens after the revolution - the new tsars see the problems inbuilt within the system! This never happened when I ruled with my iron fist! ;p
My own two cents - it's real simple, the mods make the rules and we follow them, if we don't like them then tough: We follow the rules. As long as there is a method of appeal and discussion about bans, warnings etc rather than an out of the blue kick-out then I really don't see the problem.
Also, for what it's worth I don't think that any debate on the Greek or European economic situation has any place on a retro computing forum, certainly not outwith a dedicated topic in the off-forum section.... Those three great undebatables - football, religion and politics...
I was never a fan of the "the mod/owner makes his own rules, we follow them". As I said many times on the Zone, a community is nothing without its member and as such, to a large degree, it *belongs* to its members who have a big saying in what is going on and how. So, IMO, the rules of a forum should reflect the broad consensus of the members, with a pinch of personal opinion thrown in that forms the 'drive' behind the effort.
In this case I think my reaction was maybe even slow in coming, and I believe I was well within the limits of common sense :)
And no: all those issues can be debated in the Off-topic section - will be glad to -, but normally not much elsewhere. But there *is* some tolerance, as with everything*
*"everything" does not include juvenile sex jokes attached to everything. The emphasis is on "some tolerance" :)
Even if some humans always try to f*** up the germans here - and even if they learn step by step how to do it more sophisticated - let's calm down all together!
Voxfreak and Gryzor, please stop that patriotistic thing. We are all CPC users, we have that thing in common and we should concentrate on the things we have in common.
BTW: You first need to have a lot of things in common, to be able to see the differences at all.
Happy thinking about this and happy CPCing for all of us :-)
QuoteVoxfreak and Gryzor, please stop that patriotistic thing
Eh? Have you even read what I wrote? I give up.
Quote from: TFM/FS on 06:18, 01 July 10
Even if some humans always try to f*** up the germans here - and even if they learn step by step how to do it more sophisticated - let's calm down all together!
Eh? Who's trying to F*** UP the Germans... that makes no sense at all?
I agree we all have the CPC in common, but that's also the case for many things. A good open and honest debate, with a bit of childish banter thrown in never hurt anyone. It's becoming a bit too grown up for me this forum, getting a bit too adult for my liking.
I don't believe anyone should be banned, but I'm not the boss at the end of the day, Gryzor is and we have to accept that.
If you all don't start behaving real soon, I'll spank you all with a huge Microsoft keyboard, so that you'll walk around with a big Microsoft logo on your butt for a month!
And THEN, I'll spreads rumors on all forums on the Internet, about how much you love Microsoft, and that you cried when Bill Gates left.
There... that ought to do it.
Microsoft is the hand that feeds me, so its a love hate thing I have to endure. By the way! Stop talking about spanking bottoms, wrong on a whole new level.
Quote from: ukmarkh on 12:36, 01 July 10
Eh? Who's trying to F*** UP the Germans... that makes no sense at all?
Exactly my thought. This is surreal :D
Oh, also: I'm not the boss. I'd like to think of myself as the glue that holds it together, or God or something, dunno...
...
Bill... Gates.... LEFT???!!!! GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWD!!!!!!! :`(
Quote from: Gryzor on 15:58, 01 July 10
Exactly my thought. This is surreal :D
Oh, also: I'm not the boss. I'd like to think of myself as the glue that holds it together, or God or something, dunno...
If you want to be the glue here, great, then follow that path. Would be great. But at the moment ...
I blame the flags on the user profiles...
Who cares where you come from? I live on planet CPC :)
Quote from: redbox on 00:41, 02 July 10
... I live on planet CPC :)
Yes right! Recently, by accident, I discovered a whole multiverse (equals roughly a sort of compartimented universe) in my CPC. Think I will go there and feel well there for ever.
Good buy mean outworld, welcome in IconJohns world 8)
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Yeah I know!
The problem is that this forum is a way to discuss with Fellow europeans...
so yeah, the international aspect bring back some unrelated stuff...
Football, WorldWars and history...
We liked to kill each other in the past...
And I'm fond of history, yet I bear no grudge at all as I am a convinced Pro-European.
Needless to say, German could bear more grudge against spanish...lol... or against octopuss/squids... ;D
Netherland vs Spain ? lol, reminds when the "Orange" Netherland went free from Spanish dominion...
Also we have to remember that South Africa was first a Netherland colony... (until the Britains came to screw them a bit...) the Boers must support them...
And, well, two notorious MSX countries "soccering" each other... :D
I don't think the flag icon thing is that important in such off topic debates..
Is it ?
I though it was fun to have those, but of course this can drive some peoples furher... er... further...
So yeah, we can joke on nationnalities, as good europeans this is normal, but please don't get this too far.
And don't take it too seriously too.
QuoteWho cares where you come from? I live on planet CPC
AZERTY or QWERTY or Ñ one ? :-\
Quote from: Leonie on 20:35, 29 June 10
Siehe, wie fein und lieblich ist´s, wenn Brüder und Schwestern einträchtig beieinander wohnen!
Quote from: steve on 20:47, 29 June 10
As an englishman, I was brought up to believe that if you speak slowly and loudly :P enough, foreigners will understand what an englishman says :P , the reverse is not true however, I tried to read that german post slowly, at least twice, but I am just do not understand it. :laugh:
This is not the normal german language!
This is a quote from "The Bible", Psalm 133.
"The Bible" is a very old book that deals with God, Jesus Christ, Me and so forth.
Quote from: Leonie on 22:19, 09 July 10
This is not the normal german language!
This is a quote from "The Bible", Psalm 133.
"The Bible" is a very old book that deals with God, Jesus Christ, Me and so forth.
What's your pseudo in that old book? :angel:
This thread kind of reminded me of the movie The Great Escape. Steve McQueen always going to that Cooler! ;D Be kind of nice if you could just send who are bad to the Cooler so they can post all they want in it and restrict them from the rest of the forum for a certain time. The Cooler of course would be Out-Of-Bounds to the rest of us! (with good reason). ;D
Hey, this is actually a neat idea... wow.
Quote from: CP/M User on 01:30, 16 August 10
This thread kind of reminded me of the movie The Great Escape. Steve McQueen always going to that Cooler! ;D Be kind of nice if you could just send who are bad to the Cooler so they can post all they want in it and restrict them from the rest of the forum for a certain time. The Cooler of course would be Out-Of-Bounds to the rest of us! (with good reason). ;D
Damn good movie, damn good actor 8) ... I'll like to go in that cooler, we still have 34 Celsius in NOLA ;-)
TFM/FS wrote:
Damn good movie, damn good actor 8) ... I'll like to go in that cooler, we still have 34 Celsius in NOLA ;-)
There's also a Computer Game of it too - not sure if it's any good, probably has a cooler in it! ;D
Played the CPC version, this wonderful hardware need no cooler :-)))
Coming back to the original title of this thread... inappropriate posts:
Here is one, look at the last posting on the page:
http://cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php/topic,1332.0.html (http://cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php/topic,1332.0.html)
Well, sure, but this is off-topic here, really, and you could just send a report to the mods :)