Battle Beyond The Stars cover art scan ?

[David Warry]

 looking for Battle Beyond The Stars cover art  scan
can anyone help thanks

[robcfg]

CPC-Power is usually the place to look. 

[Kris]

Saddly, covers are "watermarked"

[David Warry]

shame about watermark  why would they do that ! i dont see the point
not helping anyone

[Naby]

Found here

[hERMOL]

just ... CPCRULEZ | AMSTRAD CPC | GAMESLIST | BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS (c) SOLAR SOFTWARE

[mr_lou]

shame about watermark  why would they do that ! i dont see the point
not helping anyone

If it was me who had put all that work into scanning these covers, I would add the watermark in order to prevent anyone from stealing all of my hard work onto their own sites.
But I also wouldn't have a problem sending someone a version without the watermark, if I was asked.

[David Warry]

If it was me who had put all that work into scanning these covers, I would add the watermark in order to prevent anyone from stealing all of my hard work onto their own sites.
But I also wouldn't have a problem sending someone a version without the watermark, if I was asked.

i understand that but  they a making a  copy of something  that is 30 years old  do they owm the rights  better to make it avaleable to all then to be lost to history

[gerald]

i understand that but  they a making a  copy of something  that is 30 years old  do they owm the rights  better to make it avaleable to all then to be lost to history

Just take the following point of view :
You invest a lot of time and money to provide functional dump, scan, history of 30 years old stuff, and someone else just grab it, put is logo on it, publish and takes all the credit for that work.
What would you do except putting your own banner on it?
The other possibility is to stop sharing at all.

[robcfg]

If people cannot get the images, then what's the purpose?


Anyway, many of CPC Power's scans are done by people like CPCManiaco, precisely to allow people to access them.


I know Bruno has put a lot of effort on his site, but watermarks defeats the site's purpose. Just imagine all wikipedia images watermarked like that...

[||C|-|E||]

I used to write reviews (in Spanish) for my Amstrad CPC blog a few years ago until I decided to employ the time in something like creating new games instead of writing about other´s productions  . Anyway, the point is that I was always writing about games I physically own and providing, if possible, the maps, covers and instructions manuals scanned and restored without water marks. I thought about it for a long time and then I decided that the little banner in the bottom of the image would suffice. Actually, I think that I was right, nobody stole anything from my page, as far as I know, probably because the material is free and you can easily link it. On the other hand, I do not have any kind of right over the games, it is probably not even legal to upload the material 

For example, this is my review of Myth:

MYTH HISTORY ON THE MAKING | Mundo CPC

and this is the cover with the manual:

https://mundocpc.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/portada_manual_300ppp.jpg

The watermark is, of course, a personal decision. The good news is that the one used CPC-Power could be easily removed. The bad news is that the scan quality is not good anyway. I mean, the image is nice and useful from the historic point of view, but not to print it.

[Nich]

shame about watermark  why would they do that ! i dont see the point

Because Kukulcan (the CPC-POWER admin) felt that a certain other CPC archive was 'stealing' his scans en masse, so the watermark is intended to prevent that from happening in the future.

[ukmarkh]

What's with all the watermark bollocks... I thought in the spirit of the community, it was all about sharing our childhood memories.


If these people were responsible for creating the images, and not just uploading, I could understand. We share the ROMS, but not the eff'ing pictures... WTF!   

[EgoTrip]

What's with all the watermark bollocks... I thought in the spirit of the community, it was all about sharing our childhood memories.


If these people were responsible for creating the images, and not just uploading, I could understand. We share the ROMS, but not the eff'ing pictures... WTF!

A lot of them are exclusive to cpc-power, scanned in by and/or for Kukulcan to use on that site. I myself have donated a small number. A lot of time and effort, and undoubtedly money has gone into cpc-power by Kukulcan and others to make it the awesome resource it is. I think its incredibly cheeky for people to just take from there and use as their own without asking first, so putting an unobtrusive watermark on the images to prevent stealing is totally reasonable and fair.

You talk about spirit of the community, but the sad fact is there are those who go against this spirit. It certainly is not Kukulcan. It is those who necessitate the need for these measures.

[ukmarkh]

Stealing... What are you on about? I'm talking about sharing the love. These are old images from everyone's past.


If you lock them in to a single site, and heaven forbid, the site disappears, we lose everything. Remember that other CPC site (CPC ZONE) that went tits up!


That was a big loss to the community. This is not about one person or one site, people upload their ROMS all the time, and share with the community, how is sharing information a problem.


That's what the internet should be about, sharing information. If the site is as good as you say it is, then there's no problems. 


What about all the people on here, who break their eff'ing backs for free, to help each other, and support the community. That's no different to the knob who hides ChaseHQ 2 away from the rest of us, he's no good to the community and can fcuk off!

[Puresox]

Chase HQ2 guy, I hope he has at least done the smart thing of duplicating it in some way  so that a copy is available if something terrible occurs to the cart

[remax]

A lot of them are exclusive to cpc-power, scanned in by and/or for Kukulcan to use on that site. I myself have donated a small number. A lot of time and effort, and undoubtedly money has gone into cpc-power by Kukulcan and others to make it the awesome resource it is. I think its incredibly cheeky for people to just take from there and use as their own without asking first, so putting an unobtrusive watermark on the images to prevent stealing is totally reasonable and fair.

You talk about spirit of the community, but the sad fact is there are those who go against this spirit. It certainly is not Kukulcan. It is those who necessitate the need for these measures.

I totally understand your point, but i think this is bad practise in term of preservation.


Even if, and it's the case as he stated so, Bruno gives unwatermarked scans to anyone who asks it, having only one man who have the whole set make it vulnerable to hard drive crash, fire, thieft or anything like that.


If anything like that must happen, then it means everything start again to nearly 0.


When a set is well shared, you can be sure that nothing can happen to it.

[Lazy Dude]

Looks like it started out as a simple question that has opened a minor can of worms!!
I am sure if you ask the site owner for a specific pic you will get it. Its not like you are wanting 1000's of images.

[reidrac]

The few times I contacted Bruno he was approachable and nice, so I would try to ask him for a non watermarked image; he may even have it in higher quality.

(actually, I just checked and he mentions on cpc-power that is OK to contact him regarding this)

[Nich]

I think its incredibly cheeky for people to just take from there and use as their own without asking first, so putting an unobtrusive watermark on the images to prevent stealing is totally reasonable and fair.

I wouldn't describe CPC-POWER's watermark as 'unobtrusive'...

[EgoTrip]

Ok I stand corrected, its been a few weeks since I actually viewed any images on there, and indeed they do have big watermarks on them. Last time I did they had those cut-off watermarks which I assumed were still there. I still stand by the points I made though. Blame the cheeky thieves not Bruno.

[robcfg]

Hey, it's not like people went to Bruno's place and stole his computer and storage devices...


If you put something on Internet, you know what you're in for.


Ok, it would be nice, as it happened to me on The Dragon Archive, that a user asked me for permission to use my scans for the Dragon article on Wikipedia and credited me for them. But, seriously, expecting people not to do what they like with the contents you provide is a bit naive.


On top of that, as it happens with DRM all around the place, in the end, the people that play legal on you, it's the one that suffer from these kind of security measures.

[remax]

Hey, it's not like people went to Bruno's place and stole his computer and storage devices...


If you put something on Internet, you know what you're in for.


Ok, it would be nice, as it happened to me on The Dragon Archive, that a user asked me for permission to use my scans for the Dragon article on Wikipedia and credited me for them. But, seriously, expecting people not to do what they like with the contents you provide is a bit naive.


On top of that, as it happens with DRM all around the place, in the end, the people that play legal on you, it's the one that suffer from these kind of security measures.

Moreover, you can discourage people who would contribute as it would be an efficient way to share, but would mind seeing a huge watermark on their work...

[SRS]

Why discuss this HERE and not just have a chat with Kukulcan ?

He is a nice guy and if you have a good argument I do not think he would behave "ignorant" ?

[ukmarkh]

Hey, it's not like people went to Bruno's place and stole his computer and storage devices...


If you put something on Internet, you know what you're in for.


Ok, it would be nice, as it happened to me on The Dragon Archive, that a user asked me for permission to use my scans for the Dragon article on Wikipedia and credited me for them. But, seriously, expecting people not to do what they like with the contents you provide is a bit naive.


On top of that, as it happens with DRM all around the place, in the end, the people that play legal on you, it's the one that suffer from these kind of security measures.

Couldn't agree more... it's stupid!