Censoring bad words?

[Gryzor]

Hello guys,
As a very few of you may have notices, yesterday we started censoring some 'bar' words in the forum. But I thought we'd have some discussion about it, since I don't feel very comfortable with it...


The thing is, I guess we should keep some kind of language level in the forum. On the other hand, we're all adults here... True, some may get offended by some word or the other, but then again putting asterisks in its place sounds somewhat hypocritical to me...
So cast your votes and let us know...
Cheers
Gryzor

[Devilmarkus]

I think everyone shows in his/hers postings, what he/she is.

  In the one side: when someone uses words like fu*k, or other "not so   nice" expressions, it's shown that this user
a) hasn't much to say @   home or
b) left school too early or
c) don't know how to express him-/herself

That's why I think a smart censoring would be a good solution.
Other cases (Change C64 to breadbin64) are annoying. Thats why I removed that.

[Gryzor]

Of course each person's language shows their level. That's why I said that the whole thing can be self-regulating. On the other hand, come on, I think I come from a good family, I have a university degree plus two post-grads and I love you all guys, however this doesn't mean I don't use the occasional swear-word... as we all do.

I guess, in the end, if someone decides to start swearing (and I don't think we had this problem in the past) we could just warn them, edit their posts and in the end ban them. IF the problem is so grave.

As for the breadbin.... oh man, you are lame This was meant as an easter egg kind of joke. Stop being a grandad now that you had your birthday!

[ukmarkh]

DevilMarkus, in the UK doctors, scientists, government officials and university peeps all swear. In fact it's a second language over here. Damn even the foreigner swears, in fact it's the first bit of English everyone learns. Stop being a massive old fanny, this is a democracy you know?    

I think everyone shows in his/hers postings, what he/she is.

  In the one side: when someone uses words like fu*k, or other "not so   nice" expressions, it's shown that this user
a) hasn't much to say @   home or
b) left school too early or
c) don't know how to express him-/herself

That's why I think a smart censoring would be a good solution.
Other cases (Change C64 to breadbin64) are annoying. Thats why I removed that.

[redbox]

I don't mind either way (but I did vote for 'self-regulation').

However, I agree with ukmarkh and think that people who don't speak English as their mother tongue are suprised at just how much we do swear in the UK when they visit.

Of course you wouldn't say it in front of your mother, but amongst friends (and sometimes work collegues) it is commonplace.

[MacDeath]

In french too :  putain, merde and fait chier are part of our delicate culture...

We are not like American who Bip every fucking time someone er...oops, sorry...

[Leonie]

In french too :  putain, merde and fait chier are part of our delicate culture...

And croissants. 

[ukmarkh]

In Germany though, and i've been there many times. The people seem to think completely different about things to the rest of europe, especially British people. I'm not sure why, and can't really put my finger on it, but just different... I suppose better maybe, If the truth be known. I went over with a friend the last time I was there, some of his friends are German, great folk. Anyway, I cracked a joke around the dinner table that included a few swear words, everyone laffed, but seemed shocked at the profanity.

I also felt safer somehow, and the people are really friendly. It reminds me of southern Ireland; clean, friendly and full of life.

[arnoldemu]

Hello guys,
As a very few of you may have notices, yesterday we started censoring some 'bar' words in the forum. But I thought we'd have some discussion about it, since I don't feel very comfortable with it...


The thing is, I guess we should keep some kind of language level in the forum. On the other hand, we're all adults here... True, some may get offended by some word or the other, but then again putting asterisks in its place sounds somewhat hypocritical to me...
So cast your votes and let us know...
Cheers
Gryzor

I do swear, but I think that really it is not necessary 90% of the time to do so.
When you have kids you will quickly learn that you don't want them to use the swear words so you try hard not to swear, and as a result find that you swear much less.

I don't really like to read a message posting that is full of swearing.. because in my opinion the same thoughts could be expressed without the swearing.

Equally, I don't know if I want to read a post that has all the swearing "bleeped" out.

So. I'm going to vote for self control

[Leonie]

I went over with a friend the last time I was there, some of his friends are German, great folk.
Anyway, I cracked a joke around the dinner table that included a few swear words, everyone laffed, but seemed shocked at the profanity.

That´s funny. I know that very well.
I think, a lot of Germans misunderstand cutting irony or black humor.
Especially if the used words sounds like a hard kick in the teeth.

[Gryzor]

This is turning into a nice sociological discussion...

@arnoldemu: I know what you mean, I passed a phase where I would swear more and more until I realised and tried deliberately to cut it down. But I don't think we'll ever see a post full of dirty words, aside from the occasional 'fuck' or 'shite' or stuff like that... you know, as part of a normal, relaxed discussion. If we see one, then I think we have the other means I mentioned to fight it.

[Executioner]

No censoring please, and I think you all should listen to Kevin Bl***y Wilson to see how the Aussies do it

[Gryzor]

11-1.... to be fair, the answers are a bit rigged because there are two against, one for, which ostensibly puts some bias into the equation. So I'm adding a fourth option - you're free to change your votes.

[Ritchardo]

To quote the ever wise Stephen Fry: "Swearing is a really important part of one's life and it would be impossible to imagine going through life without swearing and without enoying swearing

There used to be mad, silly, prissy people who would say swearing is a sign of a poor vocabulary as such; utter nonsense! The people I know who swear the most tend to have the widest vocabularies!"

If it's good enough for Fry it's good enough for me!

[Gryzor]

@ritchardo: one of the reasons I tremendously enjoyed Deadwood. The variety and imaginative degree of the swearing and insults in that serial was just awesome. Fantastic series, such a shame it was discontinued...

[ukmarkh]

To quote the ever wise Stephen Fry: "Swearing is a really important part of one's life and it would be impossible to imagine going through life without swearing and without enoying swearing

There used to be mad, silly, prissy people who would say swearing is a sign of a poor vocabulary as such; utter nonsense! The people I know who swear the most tend to have the widest vocabularies!"

If it's good enough for Fry it's good enough for me!

f**k Yeah!

[Gryzor]

Now you're just being immature :p

[Leonie]

You guys suck.
Damned arselickers!   


XXX-Rated

[Gryzor]

Dictionaries don't ever have the plural forms of lemmas.

But now you're just cursing, and it's not polite.

[nurgle]

In Germany though, and i've been there many times. The people seem to think completely different about things to the rest of europe, especially British people. I'm not sure why, and can't really put my finger on it, but just different... I suppose better maybe, If the truth be known. I went over with a friend the last time I was there, some of his friends are German, great folk. Anyway, I cracked a joke around the dinner table that included a few swear words, everyone laffed, but seemed shocked at the profanity.

I also felt safer somehow, and the people are really friendly. It reminds me of southern Ireland; clean, friendly and full of life.

Must be a different germany than I live in?  Where in germany have you been? Different parts of germany have a wildly different culture, different dialects and different ways of expressing themselves. Rest assured that in Berlin people do swear a lot. Just ask a local bus driver a "stupid question" and you will find out the hard way.     We even have german gansta rappers whose language is common youth culture over here. And some years ago the VJs on german music television VIVA where proud to play all the videos that where censored by MTV like "Smack my bitch up" from the Prodigy (brilliant video btw.) (The station was bought by MTV later on, but nowadays theres youtube, so who cares about music television any more)

I bet you did'nt know that "lick my ass" is a quote from a play by Goethe. 

Also I am not sure in which respect we differ more from the brits than other european nations. And especially why we are like the irish who are really more english in culture than any other nation, altough they won't admid it and instead call their english breakfast irish breakfast for example. 

Sorry for the long sentences which are in fact a german speciality that does not translate well. 

[edit: Watch out for the simlyes. I could'nt resits to answer. I find the original posting amusing, but not offensive in any way]

[redbox]

one of the reasons I tremendously enjoyed Deadwood. The variety and imaginative degree of the swearing and insults in that serial was just awesome. Fantastic series, such a shame it was discontinued...

That's because although it was an awesome show, Season 3 was f**king sh*t.

Sorry, couldn't resist 

[ukmarkh]

Visited a place called Baden Baden the last time I was there. I think maybe the peeps there are a bit on the serious side, very polite although sometimes a   little abrupt. Oh and everyone can drive in Baden Baden, unlike where I live. I suppose its just different cultures, and I guess I'm saying I really like German people. So no harm done. 

Must be a different germany than I live in?  Where in germany have you been? Different parts of germany have a wildly different culture, different dialects and different ways of expressing themselves. Rest assured that in Berlin people do swear a lot. Just ask a local bus driver a "stupid question" and you will find out the hard way.     We even have german gansta rappers whose language is common youth culture over here. And some years ago the VJs on german music television VIVA where proud to play all the videos that where censored by MTV like "Smack my bitch up" from the Prodigy (brilliant video btw.) (The station was bought by MTV later on, but nowadays theres youtube, so who cares about music television any more)

[nurgle]

Visited a place called Baden Baden the last time I was there. I think maybe the peeps there are a bit on the serious side, very polite although sometimes a   little abrupt. Oh and everyone can drive in Baden Baden, unlike where I live. I suppose its just different cultures, and I guess I'm saying I really like German people. So no harm done.

Oh, thats wayyy south near the french border. Quite different from Berlin for sure, although people from this region keep pouring in here in our capital.  Try visiting Hamburg or Berlin for a contrast. It's not better or worse, just different.

[robcfg]

I have family in Nordrhein-Westfalen and yes, it sounds quite different from the people of the south, not to mention the swiss or the austrians.

[Devilmarkus]

I just removed all censored words.
But please remember: We all should keep our culture alive!